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    James Dean Lucky Pocket Watch

    Antiquorum Auctions James Dean’s Lucky Pocketwatch

    Antiquorum Auctions James Dean's Lucky Pocketwatch

    Probably be the highest price paid for an Elgin???
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    Re: James Dean Lucky Pocket Watch

    Maybe he should have kept it, coz his luck run out.
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    Re: James Dean Lucky Pocket Watch

    Haha. Lol
    True. Big time.

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    Re: James Dean Lucky Pocket Watch

    Quote Originally Posted by HOROLOGIST007 View Post
    Probably be the highest price paid for an Elgin???
    We'll see what it ultimately brings, but #101(personal watch of Benjamin W. Raymond) sold in the late '80s for close to $13K.
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    Re: James Dean Lucky Pocket Watch

    Quote Originally Posted by Ben_hutcherson View Post
    We'll see what it ultimately brings, but #101(personal watch of Benjamin W. Raymond) sold in the late '80s for close to $13K.
    I think I would wager a small bet that this goes for more
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    Einstein's (Longines) sold for more than John Lennons (XX) - Its all 'relative' LOL
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    Re: James Dean Lucky Pocket Watch

    The provenance seems a bit light; it's a turn of the century watch alleged to have been bought second hand by James Dean, according to the person he gave it to. They dial states "Standard U.S.A", which normally refers to N.Y. Standard watch company, they describe it as having 5 jewels, and claim that both the movement and case are signed. I'm guessing it's actually a NY Standard pocket watch in an Elgin WatchCase Company case, and that the people at Antiquorium need to take a "pocket watch 101" course.
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    Re: James Dean Lucky Pocket Watch

    Quote Originally Posted by AbslomRob View Post
    The provenance seems a bit light; it's a turn of the century watch alleged to have been bought second hand by James Dean, according to the person he gave it to. They dial states "Standard U.S.A", which normally refers to N.Y. Standard watch company, they describe it as having 5 jewels, and claim that both the movement and case are signed. I'm guessing it's actually a NY Standard pocket watch in an Elgin WatchCase Company case, and that the people at Antiquorium need to take a "pocket watch 101" course.
    Not sure that matters, it could be a sand timer - its 'just' if the provenance proves it was owned by James Dean.
    If it was not, then Antiquorium will be in big trouble

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    Re: James Dean Lucky Pocket Watch

    I'm rather bemused by their statement " In the movie East of Eden, he is seen wearing this watch with an alternative cover in order to hide his initials “J.D”."

    Maybe I'm cynical, but an alternative cover? I'm pretty sure it would have been easier to just get some other pocket watch; how exactly would you put an "alternative cover" on a turn-of-the-century hunter-cased pocket watch?
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    Re: James Dean Lucky Pocket Watch

    Quote Originally Posted by AbslomRob View Post
    I'm rather bemused by their statement " In the movie East of Eden, he is seen wearing this watch with an alternative cover in order to hide his initials “J.D”."

    Maybe I'm cynical, but an alternative cover? I'm pretty sure it would have been easier to just get some other pocket watch; how exactly would you put an "alternative cover" on a turn-of-the-century hunter-cased pocket watch?
    Who knows - its all about 'commercial' marketing LOL
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    Re: James Dean Lucky Pocket Watch

    Yeah, to a point. It bugs me in this particular case becuase Antiquorium markets themselves as "The World's Premier Auctioneers of Modern and Vintage Timepieces", yet they seem to be making mistakes that would make even a novice collector question their horological experience. I might forgive them if it was just one of the many generic watches they were auctioning; I wouldn't necessarily expect them to do a detailed inspection of every piece they handle. But this is a headlining piece that they're splashing all over their webpage and getting reviews of. Would it kill them to post a movement shot?
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