Just picked up a Citizen Jet Autodater

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    Picture Just picked up a Citizen Jet Autodater



    I may have overpaid, but something about the 40mm case and the silver dial with gold hands and indices suckered me in.

    Normally I can't stand anything gold colored, but this one struck me as special.

    I know it's likely going to need a service, any recommendations? Also, what would the market price for these normally be... I paid over $150 for it and I'm not sure I got a good deal or got ripped.




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    Re: Just picked up a Citizen Jet Autodater

    I'm no expert but I think it's beautiful.

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    Re: Just picked up a Citizen Jet Autodater

    What a unique automatic movement!

    Other than the discoloring of the caseback, it looks to be in very good condition. It will probably cost you about what you paid to get it serviced.

    Certainly collectible even if not really valuable.
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    ...that's just my opinion and I've been wrong before and will be again and might be now!

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    Re: Just picked up a Citizen Jet Autodater

    I think it is a fine looking dress watch and as Eeeb said it's movement gives it a certain cachet as a collectible.
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    Re: Just picked up a Citizen Jet Autodater

    Hi -

    Very, very interesting movement. According to Ranfft's pink pages, the type of movement - which is an automatic winding system with a ring rotor rotating on three rollers - was built in two different families of movements, but he does not document a 27 jewel movement, just up to 25 jewels.

    Fundamentally, the movement are 13''', with a sweep central second and a quick date set by moving the hands between 10 and 12 the crown is pulled out. The beat is 18'000.

    The first family of movements was the 1100 series, but with only 21 jewels.

    The second family of movements was the 4100 series. with between 17 and 25 jewels.

    Both families of movements date to the mid-1960s, but I don't have any specific dates (which really means that Dr. Ranfft doesn't document one ).

    The advantage of this way of making the automatic winding system is that it allows the movement to be made thinner than one with a central rotor, since the rotor top here is no higher than the rest of the movement. It's an elegant solution, but one that is more difficult to manufacture. Later Citizen movements - which became Miyota movements - used the central rotor starting in the 1970s.

    I have no idea how many were made, but it is most definitely an example of a unique winding system from a period when watchmakers were being very creative in finding ways of making new automatic winding mechanisms, and hence rather collectible (in my opinion).

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    Re: Just picked up a Citizen Jet Autodater

    John thanks for your thoughts and information on this piece. I understand the Jet and Super Jet lines had the extra jewels, and I believe that there was actually a 39 jeweled model at one point.

    I agree that it is a collectible and significant watch, I'm not a collector, but really enjoy wearing watches that look this way. The waif-ness of the case is pretty special, and it's really quite large at 40mm and all dial.

    I just want it to tell time well (imagine that?)

    Thanks for all of your comments gents...
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    Re: Just picked up a Citizen Jet Autodater

    That looks fantastic~Congrats!

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    Re: Just picked up a Citizen Jet Autodater

    Hundred dollar bargain! Rotor assembly looks tougher than any 2010 movement.

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    Re: Just picked up a Citizen Jet Autodater

    Beautiful watch at a deal! I sawa 33j last year that I considered paying the $200 that the dealer offered it for. I read that the autorotaor (think that was name on it) was the thinnest auto made.

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