K.M. Siegerin info needed!!!

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    K.M. Siegerin info needed!!!

    Hi all,

    Last Sunday I was at flea market and I picked up among other watches this little K.M. Siegerin. Than I googled it and could not find some conclusive info. I am almost certain that it is not fake, as I guess seller didn't know what he was selling and all stuff on the table was priced at 20 DKK (cca. 3 euros). And I could not find any traces of repainting of the dial so it is in very good state. Movement is marked 595 and I found one or two on the net almost the same, but this seller http://www.cjbalm.com/watches/watch357.htm specifies that it is Aplina 595. The movement does not look like 100% as Alpina 595 from ranfft http://www.ranfft.de/cgi-bin/bidfun-db.cgi?10&ranfft&0&2uswk&AS_595
    but it is also picture of the AS 340. Inner side of the back case is marked "Edelstahl" which means Stainless steel. Watch is running and keeping time very accurate for its age. I know my German is not perfect, but "Siegerin" means female winner. Was there a German Navy ship called "Siegerin"? Is there some sort of database, so I can check back case number and find out if this is real or not. I took it to the watch maker so it gets new glass. Any info about this particular model and K.M. watches in general is welcome.

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    I know I should have posted maybe in German watches maybe in Military watches but I am used to posting in here, I hope you do not mind:thanks
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    Re: K.M. Siegerin info needed!!!

    All I can say is it's an incredible find for the money (even without the military connection)! Considering the circumstances of the purchase it is indeed unlikely to be a fake. Congrats!

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    Re: K.M. Siegerin info needed!!!

    You mite post it at the MWR Forum they are a military forum they should be able to tell you if it is real or fake.KM stands for krieagsmarine that you proberly all ready know.

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    Re: K.M. Siegerin info needed!!!

    Page 265. from Konrad Knirims book "Militharuhren":






    Please let me know if you would like to sell this piece.

    Pozdrav!
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    Re: K.M. Siegerin info needed!!!

    @jedanzoom: Thank you very very much for this detail. Where did you bought this book?
    @MACz13 & river rat: Yes I know K.M. stands for Kriegsmarine, hence my surprise, when I spot it on the table and I asked seller twice for the price, just to be sure Thx I will post it there as well, but jedanzooms answer is very precise and satisfying as well.

    One little correction I think:
    Back case is marked "Edelstahlboden" if I remember well and not "Edelstahl" because I think case is nickel or chrome plated, but still in very good condition for its age.
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    Re: K.M. Siegerin info needed!!!

    Here is a link for the book.I just have not bought a copy yet.
    http://www.knirim.de/

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    Re: K.M. Siegerin info needed!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by vultures78 View Post
    @jedanzoom: Thank you very very much for this detail. Where did you bought this book?....

    A friend bought it for me somewhere in Germany.
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    Re: K.M. Siegerin info needed!!!

    Thx again both.
    Zoom I have sent you a mail
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    Re: K.M. Siegerin info needed!!!

    A true find!
    Please note that the luminous areas (now not luminous) are with a very great certainty Radium. Do not inhale.
    Denmark is a good place to buy watches. I guess not too many WIS.
    I bought my original 1944 Laco B-uhr there. For a tenth of the value!

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    Re: K.M. Siegerin info needed!!!

    Here is a very good forum concerning German military watches....

    http://germanwatch.proboards.com/ind...?board=general

    regards

    tim

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