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    Lackawanna Pocket Watch

    A friend of mine has a vintage pocket watch with Lackawanna 17 Jewels on the face, but it's not clear who the manufacturer is even after I examined the movement. The dial is white with European-style black numbers (therefore could be from a Swiss manufacturer), the hands are full moon-style and the case has a streamlined steam engine on the back in high relief. A Google search didn't turn up anything useful. Any help with further identification would be appreciated. Thanks!

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    Re: Lackawanna Pocket Watch

    Hi -

    Pictures are a huge, huge, huge help. We loooove pictures. As a matter of fact, it's almost impossible to identify even a watch from a mainstream manufacturer with any certainty if you don't have a picture.

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    Re: Lackawanna Pocket Watch

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    Re: Lackawanna Pocket Watch

    It seems to me I remember seeing one like this before. I think it might be a Russian Molniya but I can't be sure. Could you please give us a larger picture of the movement. Thanks.

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    Re: Lackawanna Pocket Watch

    I think you are right about the country of origin... and the dial appears not to have 'Swiss Made' at the bottom.

    I'm suspect there is not much age on this watch. Production of similar watches has been fairly high in former Soviet Union countries lately. Ebay has been flooded with them. As low as they are selling, they have to be bargains if they run for more than a year or two...
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    Who is the company behind it? Why are they using this material?
    People need to be able to identify the watch with themselves. It's based on emotion." - Ralph Furter

    ...that's just my opinion and I've been wrong before and will be again and might be now!

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    Re: Lackawanna Pocket Watch

    Here's a Molniya from eBay.
    http://............/ypo4c9

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    Re: Lackawanna Pocket Watch

    It sure looks like the same train on the case (being a railfan too I'm going to do some research on that model), and I too have seen them more than once. I don't have pictures of the movement, although it looked pretty generic and was not marked with a manufacturer or country of origin - good point about not being marked "swiss made". Thanks for all of your help.

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    Re: Lackawanna Pocket Watch

    Looks like a 4-8-2 Mountain loco to me.

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    Re: Lackawanna Pocket Watch

    The Molniya 3602/3603 (without/with shockproofing on the balance) calibres are copies of the old Cortebert 526 or 530 PW calibre series. They are - unlike what is stated in the one in the eBay link! - anything but rare and choicy and you get them rather cheaply. In Germany, the Molniya 3602/3603 is a favourite calibre for weekend watchmaking tuition courses. It is very common but should not be sniffed at - it is a sturdy movement, capable of keeping excellent time and is often equipped with things like Breguet hairpspring, balance wheel with temperature screws and extra capping on the escapement wheel. If you like the looks of the watch (and some versions do look awfully kitschy!), it is one of the best buys for that sort of money you can make.

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    Re: Lackawanna Pocket Watch

    Quote Originally Posted by Ray MacDonald View Post
    Looks like a 4-8-2 Mountain loco to me.
    Yes it does... but the front end appears to be set up as a yard pusher -- something you would never use a monster like a 4-8-2 to do.

    Somewhere there are people who can id this as well as John can a Gruen ... but somehow I doubt they will be reading WUS Vintage
    "Forever is composed of nows." - Emily Dickinson

    "The watch has to be surrounded by a history.
    You need more than just a great design. You need to create an atmosphere around the product.
    Who is the company behind it? Why are they using this material?
    People need to be able to identify the watch with themselves. It's based on emotion." - Ralph Furter

    ...that's just my opinion and I've been wrong before and will be again and might be now!

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