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    Leonidas Chronograph

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    I've recently bought this old Leonidas chronograph with a Landeron 248 movement. The seller didn't give much of a description other than is was from the 40/50's and that it only ran for a very short time. Not sure how much he tested it as it happily runs for over 24hrs, although when I got it over the same period it was running nearly 2 hrs fast. I took it to my local watch maker who said the hair spring had been shortened for some reason and required replacing? After spending ages trying to find one, the watch started running to time of its own accord..

    Anyhow, I have a few questions:


    - Is there any way to date it more precisely?
    - To my untrained eye it looks in decent condition, however is it worth getting the case rechromed and the dial cleaned up or is the preference to stick with the patina?
    - As it is now running well should I still get it serviced given the issues with time keeping or should I leave it alone?


    Cheers in advance!


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    Re: Leonidas Chronograph

    I'd leave it alone myself H. Rechroming almost never looks good. Though I have seen some German collectors who did amazing jobs, but that's rare. Redialing it would be a crime against humanity. :) Much of the dirt/age might be in the crystal? It's hard to tell from photos.

    As for the hairspring, I don't know if this is the case with yours, but I have had similar in the past on two occasions. What it was I think, is that because the watches had lain without working for so long and with no maintenance or magnetic effect a coil of the spring got "stuck" to its neighbour thereby effectively shortening the spring and running like a runaway train. Wearing the watches after a while introduced body heat and movement into the spring and it freed itself. That's my mad theory and I'm sticking with it. :) Though you would think a watchmaker who was any use could tell if a spring was shortened or not?
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    Re: Leonidas Chronograph

    The dial looks fine to me patina wise, I would leave it. I can't speak for the hands and text though. A crystal polish might make it look better though. The case doesn't look too bad so I wouldn't bother with getting it replayed, as it's very expensive and an intensive process. If it was 2 hours fast after a day it needs service. Even if it "fixed" itself I would still get it looked at. Good luck, it's a nice piece.
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    Re: Leonidas Chronograph

    Nice piece, I'd get it serviced, it's a small price to pay for piece of mind

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    Re: Leonidas Chronograph

    Thanks all, I'll leave the case and dial as they are and get it serviced. I've also ordered a new strap from db10 so that should help smarten it up a bit further!

    Cheers
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    Re: Leonidas Chronograph

    Hi and welcome
    Really nice piece, surely leave the dial its perfect, I love the red running seconds hand.

    I see no one ventured a date, my feeling 40s or 50s, a movement photo would help

    Regards and enjoy
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    Re: Leonidas Chronograph

    Sorry not the best shot;

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    Re: Leonidas Chronograph

    early 40s
    And I very nice and clean 'cam' movement
    VERY nice indeed
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    Re: Leonidas Chronograph

    Great thanks! Given the dates do you think it night have been military?

    It does have some sort of mark scratched into the side, but I can't quite make it out and I assumed it was a previous owners initials or something along those lines.

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    Re: Leonidas Chronograph

    Quote Originally Posted by Haves1979 View Post
    Great thanks! Given the dates do you think it night have been military?

    It does have some sort of mark scratched into the side, but I can't quite make it out and I assumed it was a previous owners initials or something along those lines.
    not specifically designed for military, just a nice general early chronograph.
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