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    Let's find out exactly how versed I am....

    .... in vintage Longines. This is just out of the box.






    It's very late 50's or very early 60's automatic. Neither the seller nor I have opened it up - it's a front loading case and I don't have the tools. My educated guess is that it has a caliber 352 inside, and here's why:

    • there were only 4 or 5 automatics with subdial seconds
    • the font of 'Automatic' was used on the 19A series and the 34x/35x series from 1952 through 1967-ish
    • the front loading All Proof case was introduced in 1958-ish at the tail end of the 19A series' run and were primarily used with the 34x/35x movements
    • the propeller hands were staples on the 34x/35x series
    • the only movement from the 34x/35x series without a date and subdial seconds at 6 was the 352


    If I'm worth my salt with vintage Longines it'll be a 352. If it isn't, I'll post a picture of the movement and admit I stink and need a refresher course, then I'll give away a vintage Bulova to somebody here in a drawing.

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    Re: Let's find out exactly how versed I am....

    working hard on that breguet we see.
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    Very unique piece, the dial and hands are very cool looking, nice find!!
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    Im almost hoping your wrong so i can be in your drawing...JK
    Very cool timepiece, reminds me of spiderwebs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaBaeker View Post
    working hard on that breguet we see.
    Yeah, I know what you mean - but this was the last piece I purchased before the Breguet incident in NY. I've even kept off eBay since then except to sell a couple watches and watch related items.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ulackfocus View Post
    Yeah, I know what you mean - but this was the last piece I purchased before the Breguet incident in NY. I've even kept off eBay since then except to sell a couple watches and watch related items.
    Sounds like wis drama unfolding: 'Incident at Breguet'
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    Quote Originally Posted by dabaeker View Post
    working hard on that breguet we see.
    lol!
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    Re: Let's find out exactly how versed I am....

    Quote Originally Posted by ulackfocus View Post
    .... in vintage Longines. This is just out of the box.

    It's very late 50's or very early 60's automatic. Neither the seller nor I have opened it up - it's a front loading case and I don't have the tools. My educated guess is that it has a caliber 352 inside, and here's why:

    • there were only 4 or 5 automatics with subdial seconds
    • the font of 'Automatic' was used on the 19A series and the 34x/35x series from 1952 through 1967-ish
    • the front loading All Proof case was introduced in 1958-ish at the tail end of the 19A series' run and were primarily used with the 34x/35x movements
    • the propeller hands were staples on the 34x/35x series
    • the only movement from the 34x/35x series without a date and subdial seconds at 6 was the 352


    If I'm worth my salt with vintage Longines it'll be a 352. If it isn't, I'll post a picture of the movement and admit I stink and need a refresher course, then I'll give away a vintage Bulova to somebody here in a drawing.
    Dial looks like a redial from this angle. Great recessed dial.
    Giveaway? Looks like some heavy lobbying to be a WUS mod.
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    Re: Let's find out exactly how versed I am....

    Quote Originally Posted by ulackfocus View Post
    Yeah, I know what you mean - but this was the last piece I purchased before the Breguet incident in NY. I've even kept off eBay since then except to sell a couple watches and watch related items.
    This dial you have there-I have to say rivals any of the Omega constellation dials of the same period. Its a bit more understated and refined but still elegant. Very nice.

    I am still surprised at how fine the build quality of my recent conquest is. Not only does it rival my old connies in dial/build quality but I think it out-does my old Rolex datejust for dial quality as well. Of course its not cosc but you can see why Longines had a reputation that put it on par if not a notch above Omega back in the 50s.:



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    Re: Let's find out exactly how versed I am....

    Quote Originally Posted by DaBaeker View Post
    This dial you have there-I have to say rivals any of the Omega constellation dials of the same period. Its a bit more understated and refined but still elegant. Very nice.

    I am still surprised at how fine the build quality of my recent conquest is. Not only does it rival my old connies in dial/build quality but I think it out-does my old Rolex datejust for dial quality as well. Of course its not cosc but you can see why Longines had a reputation that put it on par if not a notch above Omega back in the 50s.:
    Compared against a pie-pan Connie, I'd be hard-pressed to make that distinction.



    Longines was, IMHO superior to Omega (and certainly Rolex) in the 30s and 40s. 50s? debatable....
    Last edited by mrsnak; January 15th, 2011 at 03:09.
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