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    Little Eberhard

    First off, apologies for the poor photography. Apart from being rubbish with a camera, they will probably be upside-down or something. Now for the post!

    Hi.
    I picked up this little Eberhard at a flea market on Sunday, and I wondered if anyone can give me some idea of its age and some details about the movement?
    I have tried Dr Ranffts search function, but there's only a couple of Eberhards shown and they don't match. Google helps with a bit of company history and pics of their current models, but that's about it.
    Thanks, Jay
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    Re: Little Eberhard

    Have you tried that Advanced Search feature on Ranfft? It looks vaguely like an AS or FHF movement, but I don't know which one.
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    Re: Little Eberhard

    Quote Originally Posted by badbackdan View Post
    It looks vaguely like an AS or FHF movement, but I don't know which one.
    Yup. Something like this one:
    bidfun-db Archive: Watch Movements: AS 302

    Without the calibre number on the movement, I doubt it's possible to find out the calibre number... If it's there, it's either under the balance, or on the dial side of the movement. Same goes for the movement manufacturer's mark.
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    Re: Little Eberhard

    No, it's not the Adolf Schild Cal. AS 302 (or one of its derivatives - the most comprehensive list and set of movement pictures is given in Ranfft under the AS 340): the stem release screw on the AS 302 is on the wrong side of the stem compared to yours. The Fontainemelon (FHF) Cal. 30 would be a closer match:

    bidfun-db Archiv: Uhrwerke: FHF 30

    ...and, comparing the position of the geartrain and all the screws as well as the shape of the balance cock, I think that one is probably it. For 100% confirmation, we'd need to look under the dial.

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    Thanks for your responses, guys.
    I gave the advanced search a go, but with my limited technical knowledge I didn't know how to complete some of the search parameters and ended up with quite a long list of movements to look at. The FHF30 caught my eye too,but the shape of the main bridge is similar in quite a few other movements too. I'm glad that someone with a greater understanding of the technicalities was able to point me in the right direction. Of the 2 screws by the stem, I have no clue which is the release, or the purpose of the other one! And removing the dial is waaay out of my league.
    The watch is running at the moment, but I noticed that it is set to run very fast, which it isn't doing. I take it that means it is in need of a service. Do you think it is of a good enough quality to warrant this, and maybe a dial clean too? We have a good watch service shop in my town, recommended to me by a local jeweller that specialises in higher class vintage watches.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jfcsparks View Post
    Do you think it is of a good enough quality to warrant this, and maybe a dial clean too? We have a good watch service shop in my town, recommended to me by a local jeweller that specialises in higher class vintage watches.
    This question is often asked on the forum, but is hard to answer because it is very much a matter of personal taste. Often, we see watches like yours that do not have tremendous monetary value because of their small size, but they are good quality watches that can give many years of good service if well-maintained. Your watch has several things going for it, including an interesting brand name and an attractive dial and case with somewhat unusual designs. Importantly, the case is SS. However, it looks like a toy when you hold it between your fingers, so I'm guessing it's tiny. You need to decide whether you will wear it enough to justify an investment.

    If you do, I would only consider servicing the movement (with whatever mechanical repairs are needed; it looks like you may have a problem with your stem). It is not generally advisable to attempt to clean the dial since it often does more harm than good.
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    You are correct, it is a bit on the small side at around 27mm excluding the crown. But the size doesn't matter (stop sniggering at the back!) as anything that's too small for me to wear usually gets wrist time with my other half. She is often sporting a Roamer, or a Lanco, or something else that she likes from the collection that would originally have been a gents watch but is now considered too small. I have always loved clocks and watches, and I collect as much for the piece itself as for a watch for wearing. That said, the current prejudice against smaller watches means I can get some bargains. This piece cost me £15 so it's going for service after the Seamaster comes back ?
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