Little watch engines of 1940-60 for nearsighted ladies.

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    Little watch engines of 1940-60 for nearsighted ladies.

    3 of the common oval 15mm little American and Swiss movements are shown here. Neglected and unappreciated by users, collectors and nearly everyone, including jewelers that hated to work on them. To me fine little technical accomplishments that I think are interesting. The last U.S. made Elgin near 1960. Looks crude. The amazing 23j 5 position and temperature adjusted U.S. made 1940s wartime Bulova. The unknown maker but nice looking Swiss 1960s mvnt. for a good quality Girard Perrigaux. Nice technical jewelry for eye straining simple timekeepers. Added couple more Hamilton and Longines with big balance leaving little room for mechanism, and last American RR watch Elgin 571 showing relative size.
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    Re: Little watch engines of 1940-60 for nearsighted ladies.

    The Girard Perregaux one could be a variation of AS 1977 (Durowe 1977):
    http://www.ranfft.de/cgi-bin/bidfun-...&2uswk&AS_1977
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    Re: Little watch engines of 1940-60 for nearsighted ladies.

    Appreciate your more accurate probable identity of G-P. It is in a copy of a
    pre1960 Omega.
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    Re: Little watch engines of 1940-60 for nearsighted ladies.

    My watchmaker says good women's movements are easy to work on... he particularly likes Hamiltons.

    Nice overview. The last comparison shot is very informative. Goes to show why I am always amazed these little beauties work as well as they do... great engineering.
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    Who is the company behind it? Why are they using this material?
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    ...that's just my opinion and I've been wrong before and will be again and might be now!

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    Re: Little watch engines of 1940-60 for nearsighted ladies.

    Hi ladies,

    a monster balance and a reasonable barrel to keep it running makes the
    Zenith 135 one of the most sought-after calibres:



    For many ladies movement these features are nothing but common:



    It is difficult to educate these midget movements to good acuracy, and
    therefore most gents movements appear as coarse locksmith work in
    comparison.

    In the 60s Elgin even realized a combination of freesprung hairspring with
    a sophisticated regulator, degrading a modern Rolex escapement with
    Microstella weights to a ridiculous dilettantism:



    Therefore I collect since long also ladies watches. The best of my wifes
    doesn't refuse to wear them, and in retun for one simple gents watch I get
    ten ladies watches of highest grade - the cheapest and may be the most
    interestung part of my hobby though.

    Regards, Roland Ranfft

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    Re: Little watch engines of 1940-60 for nearsighted ladies.

    Wow! That Zenith is a real jewel. And nice to know someone truly expert appreciates these things.

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    Re: Little watch engines of 1940-60 for nearsighted ladies.

    I really love these movements. I've a pair of Bulova cufflinks..


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    Re: Little watch engines of 1940-60 for nearsighted ladies.

    It is easy in today's world with its obsession with wristclocks to forget that the greatest skill of the watchmaker (Designer) was miniaturisation. Omega's common 682 movement is a Chronometer rated Auto 17.5mm in diameter. Durable and easy to work on, it has much to commend it and is a reason not to forget Rayville, its creator.
    As for ladies' watch movements in general, these little beauties are fascinating and deserve wider appreciation but not until I've collected a few more!

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