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    Question Longines Ultra Chron - dial question

    Is the dial in this auction original finish, or a redial (refinished). The A and C of AutomatiC look wrong to me...

    http://cgi.ebay.ie/Original-Vintage-...15780366QQcmdZ

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    Re: Longines Ultra Chron - dial question

    Well, ulackfocus is our resident Longines expert. He will have a more informed opinion but this looks original to me.
    "Forever is composed of nows." - Emily Dickinson

    "The watch has to be surrounded by a history.
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    Who is the company behind it? Why are they using this material?
    People need to be able to identify the watch with themselves. It's based on emotion." - Ralph Furter

    ...that's just my opinion and I've been wrong before and will be again and might be now!

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    Re: Longines Ultra Chron - dial question

    It looks authentic to me.

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    Re: Longines Ultra Chron - dial question

    Looks original to me.

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    Re: Longines Ultra Chron - dial question

    Thumb's up here also. That font on "automatic" is a later variation. When it was written in cursive it was a capital A and the C dipped below the rest of the letters. The indices are also correct for that type of minute/second track. Straight stick hands with a sliver of lume or color usually accompanied that style dial. Here's the style font you're thinking of:



    You could also have hands slightly fatter hands similar to this during that period:


    (pic by JimH)

    Sometimes these hands had different colors to match the dial. The dial in that eBay listing may be for a two tone gold & ss case like the one immediately above.
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    Thanks for your help everyone! Now you have me really confused... I wanted an Ultra-Chron ever since Ray916MN suggested to somebody on the Affordables forum to get a Hi Beat movement. I've been scanning eBay for many months, and now finally I bought two instead of one. One of the watches has an unknown movement which I hope will turn out to be a 431 as it has a central seconds hand and a date (or it might be a 6651). The other has a 6651, but is in unbelievably good condition.

    After I bought them I started searching the forum trying to find a way to open the front loader cases to see the movements, and I came across a tread about redials and how you can often spot them because of the font... So I compared auction photos of the two I bought and the fonts were different. Now I think they might both be original if Longines changed the font... I'll post proper photos of both my purchases as soon as I receive them (which might be anytime because of the eruptions...)
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    Re: Longines Ultra Chron - dial question

    Quote Originally Posted by Niccolo View Post
    Thanks for your help everyone! Now you have me really confused... I wanted an Ultra-Chron ever since Ray916MN suggested to somebody on the Affordables forum to get a Hi Beat movement. I've been scanning eBay for many months, and now finally I bought two instead of one. One of the watches has an unknown movement which I hope will turn out to be a 431 as it has a central seconds hand and a date (or it might be a 6651). The other has a 6651, but is in unbelievably good condition.

    After I bought them I started searching the forum trying to find a way to open the front loader cases to see the movements, and I came across a tread about redials and how you can often spot them because of the font... So I compared auction photos of the two I bought and the fonts were different. Now I think they might both be original if Longines changed the font... I'll post proper photos of both my purchases as soon as I receive them (which might be anytime because of the eruptions...)
    Yeah, Ray's an enabler - but most of us are. Whether it's a 36K bph 430 series or a 28.8K bph 66xx depends on when it was made. Read a little basic info HERE. I'll be looking for your photos.

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    Re: Longines Ultra Chron - dial question

    Hi Niccolo,

    looks authentic: here the same in another color:
    http://www.ranfft.de/cgi-bin/bidfun-...sau&1105545629

    Regards, Roland Ranfft

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    Confused Re: Longines Ultra Chron - dial question

    Update: I got the first watch, the one with the 6651 movement. I'll post pictures tomorrow evening.

    The watch was running when I received it, but the date and time were wrong, so I tried to change them. First I tried to turn the crown anti-clockwise in the 'IN' position and nothing happened. Then I turned it clockwise and I felt resistance, but nothing happened. I tried pulling the crown out, and there is only one position (NOT one position for date, and another for time like my other modern watches). I turned the crown anti-clockwise, and the minutes hand moves forward. Clockwise moves the minutes hand backwards, but doesn't change date. So I kept turning clockwise, and the date changes instantly at a few minutes to midnight. So is there no quicker way to change date? After changing a few days I tried turning the minutes hand 30 min backwards, but after that the movement stopped working. Did I break it?

    Are the things I described above the behaviour of a 6651 movement? There doesn't seem to be a manual wind, and I read when the 6651's crown is out the seconds hand should stop running in the 12:00 position, a unique hack. But this watch didn't have that either...

    So is the movement a 6651, and did I break it by turning the minutes hand backwards?

    Thanks for your help!
    Last edited by Niccolo; April 27th, 2010 at 22:09.
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    Picture Re: Longines Ultra Chron - dial question

    Pictures of the Longines Ultra-Chron mentioned in the post above. Hope somebody can help me with my questions... Thanks!




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