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    Looking for help finding a vintage

    Now I'm looking for a unique vintage watch around the $250 mark, I'd like to get an Omega, Girard Perregaux or Beitling, ect. but I'm willing to go up to $600 for an IWC. Any good ideas? is it possible to find a nice unique "name" watch in this price range?

    here's some designs I like








    lol, I guess I like subdials
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    Orient Blue Mako
    Omega 30 T2 PC vintage

    Wittnauer Geneve Automatic Vintage
    Poljot Journey Chronograph
    Maktime Titanium Chronograph

    Vostok Partner 31-jewel Automatic
    Hamilton Pocket Watch
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    Citizen Eco-drive
    Timex Heart Rate Monitor
    Casio MSY-501 Chronograph
    Casio Forester AniDigital - Review

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    Re: Looking for help finding a vintage

    Subdials - and redials. I'm pretty sure all of them are refinished.

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    Re: Looking for help finding a vintage

    Should be able to get a Hamilton 770 or 982M movement watch in this price range in a nice case.

    These are considered the best American made movements ever made and most Hamilton collectors, consider these better than any Swiss movement used in a Hamilton. They came in rectangular and round cases.

    I'm surprised Ulackfocus didn't mention them.

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    Re: Looking for help finding a vintage

    Ah I don't get in here much any more myself.

    The ones you show are re-dialed meaning not original dials. Its going to be hard to find a well branded piece clean at the $250 mark but can be found mind you. The Landeron movement chrono you show will for sure be more.

    Take your time ask lots of questions and advise

    For instance this Lemania which is a fine piece this one in a super compressor case with an extremely fine movement cost me about $230. Continually working at it cleaned the hands, cleaned the markers and slowly working through the whole piece myself in the end sending it off to have the movement fully serviced.

    The simply pleasure of holding life’s vintage treasures is truly a joy. Some stay, some go to make room for others, you play with them for a while then look for a new toy, it is an addiction at least, a fascination of what is no more at best!

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    Re: Looking for help finding a vintage

    cool guys, thank you, I haven't bought a vintage watch before, just have three handed down to me. I didn't know about the redialing. So is there a company that makes newer dials to put on vintage movements? or are they cleaned and refurbished?

    a quick search found this Hamilton 770 http://cgi.ebay.com/10K-Solid-Gold-H...item27aeae897b
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    Mechanical:
    Orient Blue Mako
    Omega 30 T2 PC vintage

    Wittnauer Geneve Automatic Vintage
    Poljot Journey Chronograph
    Maktime Titanium Chronograph

    Vostok Partner 31-jewel Automatic
    Hamilton Pocket Watch
    Quartz:
    Citizen Eco-drive
    Timex Heart Rate Monitor
    Casio MSY-501 Chronograph
    Casio Forester AniDigital - Review

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    Re: Looking for help finding a vintage

    Quote Originally Posted by Machine Age Victim View Post
    cool guys, thank you, I haven't bought a vintage watch before, just have three handed down to me. I didn't know about the redialing. So is there a company that makes newer dials to put on vintage movements? or are they cleaned and refurbished?

    a quick search found this Hamilton 770 http://cgi.ebay.com/10K-Solid-Gold-Hamilton-Watch-Masterpiece-Gr-770-22J_W0QQitemZ170434398587QQcmdZViewItemQQptZWristw atches?hash=item27aeae897b
    Redials are dials which are stripped and refinished. They generally decrease the value of a watch, particularly when they are done in non-original colors, like the examples you posted. Oddly colored redials seem to come from the east and south america.

    Redials are done in various levels of quality. On cheap redials, applied numerals, hash marks, and logos, are removed and instead of being refinished and reinstalled, numerals, hash marks and logos are painted on. Quality redials can be very hard to distinguish from original.

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    Re: Looking for help finding a vintage

    Quote Originally Posted by JMS View Post
    For instance this Lemania which is a fine piece this one in a super compressor case with an extremely fine movement cost me about $230. Continually working at it cleaned the hands, cleaned the markers and slowly working through the whole piece myself in the end sending it off to have the movement fully serviced.

    That's looking fantastic! Great work!
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    Re: Looking for help finding a vintage

    Just to say that, IMHO, of the brands mentioned Omegas are the most likely to be 'not right' as there are a lot of fraudsters out there mismatching cases and movements.

    I have bought 2 Girard Perregaux watches in excellent condition for well under your budget price. Its all about being patient and doing your research. Take care - and show us what you have bought when you've done it!
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    Please don't PM me to ask for a valuation - I won't attempt one.

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    Re: Looking for help finding a vintage

    thanks for all the great info!!!! is there any way to distinguish in a picture between a redial or an original?

    so this a redial? http://cgi.ebay.com/OMEGA-Gents-Luxu...item414c69f17e

    and this is not? http://cgi.ebay.com/MENS-OMEGA-SEAMA...item58834306ea
    Mechanical:
    Orient Blue Mako
    Omega 30 T2 PC vintage

    Wittnauer Geneve Automatic Vintage
    Poljot Journey Chronograph
    Maktime Titanium Chronograph

    Vostok Partner 31-jewel Automatic
    Hamilton Pocket Watch
    Quartz:
    Citizen Eco-drive
    Timex Heart Rate Monitor
    Casio MSY-501 Chronograph
    Casio Forester AniDigital - Review

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    Re: Looking for help finding a vintage

    I do not know much about Omega, but the first one is a redial and the second one looks like a mixture of movement parts. The real Omega experts here will tell you.
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