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    This looks too good to be legit

    Searching eBay and came across this piece . Plenty of bids but couldn?t find any information concerning its history
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    Re: This looks too good to be legit

    Seller states that it is a re-dial. In fact, he has made a cottage industry of re-dialed Seikos. Perhaps an Indian connection.

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/Seiko-Crono...gAAOSwICpaAQ9v
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    Re: This looks too good to be legit

    I've been following quite a few of his auctions for the past few weeks. Some nice looking watches. I wouldn't be too turned off of a redialed Seiko if it is actually done well.

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    Re: This looks too good to be legit

    Quote Originally Posted by azkid View Post
    I've been following quite a few of his auctions for the past few weeks. Some nice looking watches. I wouldn't be too turned off of a redialed Seiko if it is actually done well.

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    Apparently you're not the only one who feels that way. People are paying a lot of money for his re-dialed Grand Seikos, King Seikos, and Lord Marvels, as well as Ulysse Nardin, Omega Seamaster, etc. In my opinion, the re-dials are not particularly good, but the watches are clean and shiny for sure.

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/Seiko-Grand...sAAOSwZtlaBmCn
    https://www.ebay.com/itm/Seiko-Grand...EAAOSwySVaASiu
    https://www.ebay.com/itm/Seiko-King-...sAAOSwAC1Z~nKe
    https://www.ebay.com/itm/Seiko-Lord-...8AAOSwjyhaA8~y
    https://www.ebay.com/itm/Ulysse-Nard...cAAOSwonBaBlnl
    https://www.ebay.com/itm/Omega-Seama...EAAOSwYeRaBl61
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    Re: This looks too good to be legit

    I have no problem with a redial as long as it's well done and advertised as such.


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    I?m at the edge of a learning . So a redial is a copy ? Or they take the original watch an ?redo it ? .

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    Re: This looks too good to be legit

    I believe it just means the dial was redone. Destroys resale value vs. unmolested originals, but makes the watch look shiny and new. If you are not planning to sell, can be great way to get a vintage watch with a new old stock look.

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    Wow, that color, looks like a Bombay special.
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    Re: This looks too good to be legit

    I was tempted to bid on one of his Grand Seikos. He's in Canada, so it meant saving on customs/import charges for me. Emailed them a few times with questions, and they were very quick to respond with good detailed answers. I think they're straight forward on what they do: take vintage watches and make them look brand new.

    Ultimately, I didn't bid on anything because I want a vintage watch to look and feel like a vintage watch. I understand the appeal of a vintage watch that looks brand new, but just not for me.
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    Re: This looks too good to be legit

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaGus View Post
    I was tempted to bid on one of his Grand Seikos. He's in Canada, so it meant saving on customs/import charges for me. Emailed them a few times with questions, and they were very quick to respond with good detailed answers. I think they're straight forward on what they do: take vintage watches and make them look brand new.

    Ultimately, I didn't bid on anything because I want a vintage watch to look and feel like a vintage watch. I understand the appeal of a vintage watch that looks brand new, but just not for me.
    It's interesting that we've had a cluster of posts about re-dialed watches in the last few days, mostly from new forum members. I sense that an appreciation of originality/age may be something that develops over time for most collectors, whereas people dipping their toe in the vintage collecting pool for the first time may feel that "like-new" condition is more desirable.

    I think the issue of age/patina becomes particularly clear when one considers models where the design is virtually unchanged over time. The Omega Speedmaster would be a perfect example. At first glance, there is virtually no difference in the watch over the past 50 years. So if you are interested in a vintage model, wouldn't you want it to look old? Otherwise why not simply buy a new watch?
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