Manual wind version of FHF 65 movement?
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    Manual wind version of FHF 65 movement?

    Manual winding, though it has the signature for the FHF 65 automatic and is in a watch marked "Automatic" on the dial and case-back. Here is the Ranfft Pink Pages page for the automatic version, in which the second picture with the the rotor assembly removed looks like the one I have:

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    Re: Manual wind version of FHF 65 movement

    I think it's quite clear- it's not a hand-wound version of an automatic movement, but an example of a watch, which fell into the hands of some watch butcher, who removed the rotor due to being unable- for whatever reason- to fix it.
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    Re: Manual wind version of FHF 65 movement

    So do we assume it had hand-winding capability when it had the rotor attached? That would be unusual, wouldn't it?

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    Re: Manual wind version of FHF 65 movement

    Most automatics can be hand wound, with some notable exceptions. Different designs tolerate it in different ways; the simpler designs transfer some of the crown energy to the autowinding gears in ways that increase their wear, while other designs isolate the crown winding pieces from the autowinding pieces. I'm not familiar with the specifics of this movement, but with the autowind removed, it looks like it should operate as a pretty standard manual-wind. However, I suspect it will wear substantially faster then a normal watch due to the extra parts between the crown and the mainspring barrel.
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    Re: Manual wind version of FHF 65 movement

    Thank you for your advice, Rob. This watch will be used very sparingly till I can source an FHF 65 rotor.

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    Re: Manual wind version of FHF 65 movement

    It isn't just the rotor. There's a half-dozen or so parts that comprise the autowind module. This is a fairly rare type of movement, so the chances of you finding all the parts to make up a new module are somewhat unlikely, and the cost of it will probably exceed the cost of just searching for a working donor. That's likely why the module on this one was removed in the first place; too hard to find parts.
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    Re: Manual wind version of FHF 65 movement

    Sounds like getting it back in automatic mode will be a hassle then. So I might keep it as a "reserve" manual dress watch or sell it to someone with the parts to restore the movement.

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    Re: Manual wind version of FHF 65 movement

    Jules Borel seems to have all or most of the parts, but all told they're worth over $100 + shipping.
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    Re: Manual wind version of FHF 65 movement

    Personally, the movement is unusual enough that I'd opt to do it. However, your cash, your decision.....

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