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    Marvin Watch Co. Pocket Watch?

    Hello Everyone!

    Happy to have found this site. I'd like to ask for help in the identification of a pocket watch. I've spent several days doing googles searches and the like -- but I'm still clueless! I would be very grateful for any input.

    First, this is a very heavy PW. The dial has (enamel or paint?) gold, gray, red and blue flowers in a circle around the hands. Gold accents also mark the half hour. It say "M. W. Co." and beneath it it says Springfield. On the inside of the case it says: "Dueber Silverine Canton O." Inside the next cover is the number 3 then beneath it are the numbers 0 0843.

    The engravings on the movement say "Marvin Watch Co" and "Springfield." The serial number is 927038. There is also a capital "S." Lastly, there is a very pretty engraving of two birds sitting on a tree limb over a pond. Below is a Loon wading through tall reeds and below that is a little owl with it's wings open wide. Hope the photos are good enough that someone can tell me more about this watch.

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    Thanks!

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    Re: Marvin Watch Co. Pocket Watch?

    Welcome to Watchuseek. First of all, this watch has nothing to do with (the better known) Marvin Watch Co. SA of La Chaux de Fonds in Switzerland. The movement isn't remotely Swiss - it is more the English/American style. The "S" is just to denote "Slow" - if the regulator arm is at that end, it slows down the watch. The other side should have an "F" (probably obscured by the regulator arm). I am afraid I can't tell you more about the watch or the company but we have other members specialising in American pocket watches here who may be able to help you out.

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    Re: Marvin Watch Co. Pocket Watch?

    Hi and Welcome
    Very cool and nice movement and surely American.
    Lovely engravings indeed.
    I will try to look up Marvin Watch Co., USA, but I suspect others will beat me
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    Re: Marvin Watch Co. Pocket Watch?

    Hartmut,

    Thanks very much for your input. And yes, there is the letter F on the opposite side.

    Nothing come up when I search for M.W. Co or Marvin Watch Co., Springfield.

    Would you perhaps know where the stateside M. W. Co. was located?

    Thanks again.

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    Re: Marvin Watch Co. Pocket Watch?

    Quote Originally Posted by Moppie View Post
    Hartmut,

    Thanks very much for your input. And yes, there is the letter F on the opposite side.

    Nothing come up when I search for M.W. Co or Marvin Watch Co., Springfield.

    Would you perhaps know where the stateside M. W. Co. was located?

    Thanks again.

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    Re: Marvin Watch Co. Pocket Watch?

    Thanks for taking the time to respond. I've searched for the same and have found nothing at all. I looked up the Dueber company and they produced "Silverine" cases in the late 1800's. Could anyone explain why there are 2 separate back covers? Since one is marked "Dueber Silverine Canton O" could Hampden possibly have made the movement clearly engraved as "Marvin Watch Co.?

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    Re: Marvin Watch Co. Pocket Watch?

    Quote Originally Posted by Moppie View Post
    Thanks for taking the time to respond. I've searched for the same and have found nothing at all. I looked up the Dueber company and they produced "Silverine" cases in the late 1800's. Could anyone explain why there are 2 separate back covers? Since one is marked "Dueber Silverine Canton O" could Hampden possibly have made the movement clearly engraved as "Marvin Watch Co.?
    Thats interesting, Dueber Hampden made watches.
    "silverine" is just a generic name for an alloy of nickel and copper and has no silver content at all.
    i was a predesessor to stainless steel.
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    Re: Marvin Watch Co. Pocket Watch?

    This is a quite common 'Swiss Fake' pocket watch movement housed in an American case. By 'Swiss Fake', we mean a movement that is pretending to be something it isn't. In this case, the movement is definitely Swiss made. It is made to resemble the American 18S movements of the day. This one somewhat resembles the Waltham 1883 model - but poorly. The case is a Dueber nickel case that is American made.

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    Re: Marvin Watch Co. Pocket Watch?

    As Dave says, it's a Swiss fake.

    I've had a couple of Marvins and I'd actually put them among the better of the Swiss fakes, but to be blunt most of them are pretty crummy.

    As for the "Springfield"-this obviously wasn't made stateside but I suspect it was probably intended to refer to Springfield, MA. There were a couple of other watch companies in Massachusetts(US Watch Company of Waltham, and the much better know American Waltham Watch Company), and Springfield MA was a well-known manufacturing center in the latter part of the 1800s(probably best known for Smith and Wesson which is still there today, but there were several other big companies there). The New York Watch Company, and later the Hampden Watch Company(constant lineage and sequential serial numbers with NYWCo) were located in Springfield.

    I say that because most of these Swiss Fakes had "New England" sounding locations, although it's common to find them with cities misspelled :)
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