Mido Oceanstar Datoday date set question..

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    Mido Oceanstar Datoday date set question..

    hello guys & experts!

    I just received my 2nd Mido Oceanstar Datoday, purchased
    from ebay. The first one is labelled chronometer, this one isn't,
    and this one seems in better condition than the first.

    On the chronometer, pressing the crown inwards makes the date
    quickset, while the day is non-quicksetting.

    On this one, I cannot for the life of me find out how to quickset
    the date. There must be a way for sure, otherwise the day/date
    indication will only be correct 1/7 of the time :) (when it happens
    to show the correct day, that is). The crown seems to have an inner
    position, where the movement winds, and one stop outwards which
    sets the time. In the winding position, there is no space to push in
    further. In the winding position, turning the crown in the opposite
    direction doesn't seem to do anything.

    If anyone has one of these watches and knows what it's meant to do,
    please tell me!

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    Re: Mido Oceanstar Datoday date set question..

    Don't know about a Mido, but I have a Waltham DayDate that sets both together with the crown out and winding through the time.

    Turning the crown back the other way, with it still out, mind you, turns the day back separately.

    Hope it helps, probably won't.

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    Re: Mido Oceanstar Datoday date set question..

    There are a large number of variations in how this is done... Ranfft has some clues as to how the movements he listed were intended to work. Check the movement against that. Post the movement and maybe others with that movement can help.
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    Re: Mido Oceanstar Datoday date set question..

    Yes, it all depends on which movement is inside! Tell me the movement and I'll tell you which way to set dat and time.....!!

    Generally, the more modern day-date movements are quick-set via the crown. Pull out to first position (second position is full out for setting the time) and then twiddle one direction for the date and the other for the day-of-the-week. Really primitive systems don't have a day-of-the-week setting - you have to turn those hands round until you have at least the day right, then quick-set the date. So, it is possible that you may end up having to fiddle around a lot.....

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    Re: Mido Oceanstar Datoday date set question..

    hello,

    the Oceanstar is an 'open thru crystal' watch & I don't have the tool to do that.. even stranger, it doesn't seem to have a middle stop between
    winding & time set positions.

    The movement seems to be similar to my other Oceanstar, the day
    has no quickset, and flips over both backwards ands forwards, while
    the date quicksets by pushing the crown inwards - what movement
    is that? Well on this new Oceanstar, the crown doesn't have any space
    to move inwards ..

    And yet the watch is in original condition & doesn't seem to have ever
    been tampered with ..

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    Re: Mido Oceanstar Datoday date set question..

    Quote Originally Posted by croolis View Post
    The movement seems to be similar to my other Oceanstar, the day
    has no quickset, and flips over both backwards ands forwards, while
    the date quicksets by pushing the crown inwards - what movement
    is that?
    Automatic or manual? And what beat frequency? Mido used a lot of Adolf Schild calibres. I suspect that it ought to be one of the following:

    Manual, 19800 A/h: AS 1838 (= Mido 001147-2NCD - http://www.ranfft.de/cgi-bin/bidfun-...&Mido_001147NC)

    Automatic, 19800 A/h: AS 1831 (= Mido 001147OCD http://www.ranfft.de/cgi-bin/bidfun-...Mido_001147OCD) or AS 1839 (= Mido 001147C http://www.ranfft.de/cgi-bin/bidfun-...k&Mido_001147C

    Manual, 21600 A/h: AS 1875 (= Mido 001147-2NCD http://www.ranfft.de/cgi-bin/bidfun-...do_001147-2NCD)

    ...and there may have been others that were used.

    Hartmut Richter

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    Re: Mido Oceanstar Datoday date set question..

    This watch probably does not have the quick-set feature.

    To set the day/date on this sort of watch follow the following procedure:

    Turn the hands forward or backward (whichever is quickest) to set the day to the current day.

    Next advance the hands until the date changes. Then turn back the hands until 7-8 PM. Next advance the hands until the date changes again. Repeat this procedure until the correct date is shown and then set the watch forward to the correct time.

    If the current date is the 16th and your watch shows the 17th then you will appreciate the quickset feature after re-setting such a watch!

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    Re: Mido Oceanstar Datoday date set question..

    Quote Originally Posted by JimH View Post
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    If the current date is the 16th and your watch shows the 17th then you will appreciate the quickset feature after re-setting such a watch!
    Amen! This is one of the most aggravating aspects of vintage collecting
    "Forever is composed of nows." - Emily Dickinson

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    You need more than just a great design. You need to create an atmosphere around the product.
    Who is the company behind it? Why are they using this material?
    People need to be able to identify the watch with themselves. It's based on emotion." - Ralph Furter

    ...that's just my opinion and I've been wrong before and will be again and might be now!

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    Re: Mido Oceanstar Datoday date set question..

    a day-date watch must have some form of quickset,
    otherwise it's impossible to change the date relative
    to the day.
    in this watch, turning hands backwards makes the day
    flip backwards too..
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    Re: Mido Oceanstar Datoday date set question..

    thanks for the excellent info,
    both my Oceanstars are autowinding..
    but on one, the krone won't drucken..

    the watch seems to have never been
    opened by the looks of it.

    cheers

    Quote Originally Posted by Hartmut Richter View Post
    Automatic or manual? And what beat frequency? Mido used a lot of Adolf Schild calibres. I suspect that it ought to be one of the following:

    Manual, 19800 A/h: AS 1838 (= Mido 001147-2NCD - http://www.ranfft.de/cgi-bin/bidfun-...&Mido_001147NC)

    Automatic, 19800 A/h: AS 1831 (= Mido 001147OCD http://www.ranfft.de/cgi-bin/bidfun-...Mido_001147OCD) or AS 1839 (= Mido 001147C http://www.ranfft.de/cgi-bin/bidfun-...k&Mido_001147C

    Manual, 21600 A/h: AS 1875 (= Mido 001147-2NCD http://www.ranfft.de/cgi-bin/bidfun-...do_001147-2NCD)

    ...and there may have been others that were used.

    Hartmut Richter
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