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    Movement identification needed

    I have an older model ladies watch (probably circa 1930's) that is in need of a new staff. I need to identify the maker so I can get the correct staff. As far as I can tell it is a 6-1/2 ligne movement marked Z.Perrenoud & Co. Swiss,15 jewels,adjusted 2 positions and temp. Any help that can be supplied will be greatly appreciated.
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    Re: Movement identification needed

    To identify the movement please give both dimensions (length & width) and show a picture of the setting parts on the dial side.

    Also check under the balance as there seem to be some markings there.

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    Movement identification needed

    I have an older model ladies watch (probably circa 1930's) that is in need of a new staff. I need to identify the maker so I can get the correct staff. As far as I can tell it is a 6-1/2 ligne movement marked Z.Perrenoud & Co. Swiss,15 jewels,adjusted 2 positions and temp. Any help that can be supplied will be greatly appreciated. Measurements are 1.000" x 0.582". There are no markings under the balance bridge.
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    Last edited by Bob P; December 12th, 2007 at 18:34.

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    Re: Movement identification needed

    Quote Originally Posted by JimH View Post
    To identify the movement please give both dimensions (length & width) and show a picture of the setting parts on the dial side.

    Also check under the balance as there seem to be some markings there.
    I have added an additional picture and information to a new post. Thanks for the heads up on what I need on the post.

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    Re: Movement identification needed

    Nice movement! In an unusual, elegant shape too!

    The mark "KF G" on the dial side is Grana according to my sources. I couldn't place that so I dug further and came up with KF standing for Kurth Freres. They were the ones who started up Certina. Apparently, the origins of Certina were a movement maker founded in 1888 by the Kurth brothers (="freres") which, after some early successes, marketed watches under the name "Grana" (derived from the name Granacus - latin for Grenchen, where Certina is located). Later, the brand Certina was founded. Information in German under http://www.hwynen.de/certina.html.

    Hartmut Richter

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    Re: Movement identification needed

    Hi Bob P,

    KF G stands for Kurth Freres Grana, as Hartmut pointed out.
    The movement is a KF 74A (often listed as Certina 74A or Grana 74A).

    Regards, Roland Ranfft

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    Re: Movement identification needed

    Nice looking movement.

    Certina are gaining popularity with vintage collectors as good quality watches.

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