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    My first alarm watch and questions.

    I've been wanting a mechanical alarm watch for a while and finally picked one up at a yard sale yesterday. It's missing the crown for the alarm and the crystal is so badly damaged it needs to be replaced but I got the watch for $3. I can't find any info online about Pedre but the movement looks to me like an A Schild? The pictures are out of the case, any info is greatly appreciated.
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    Re: My first alarm watch and questions.

    Cool - quite a bargain.

    I don't know the brand - but the ratchet wheel has the winged wheel emblem of Rotary.
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    Re: My first alarm watch and questions.

    Definitely an Adolf Schild movement. Without date and with simple adjustor on the balance, it should be the base calibre Cal. 1475:

    bidfun-db Archiv: Uhrwerke: AS 1475

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    Re: My first alarm watch and questions.

    The wheel on the mainspring barrel has an O with wings on both sides and stars in between. I haven't seen that on other A.S movements, is that from the company- Pedre?
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    Re: My first alarm watch and questions.

    As I said before, its the winged wheel logo of Rotary.

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    Re: My first alarm watch and questions.

    So why Rotary markings on an A.S. movement in a Pedre watch?
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    Re: My first alarm watch and questions.

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    So why Rotary markings on an A.S. movement in a Pedre watch?
    Pedre was - most likely - a US (New York in fact) importer of watches made for them in Switzerland. Chilton's Jewelers' Circular/keystone the Great All in One Directory - Google Books

    Just as now you could contact a company in China and have watches made for you with any name you wanted on the dial, Pedre would have sourced their watches from a number of suppliers and have them branded as Pedre. Rotary, in turn, would have sourced the movements from AS.

    Actually, they seem to be still going in the same line of business PEDRE COMPANY INC. | Blue Pages with google references to being established in 1948.
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    Re: My first alarm watch and questions.

    Im going to have to get this serviced and a new replacement crown and crystal. Two questions, does it cost more to service an alarm movement, if so how much more. Also how hard is it to find a replacement crown and stem?
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    Re: My first alarm watch and questions.

    Servicing a complicated watch is always more expensive that servicing a simple watch (all other things being equal). An alarm isn't that much more complicated, though - a chronograph is worse in that respect. Getting a stem should be feasible - the AS 1475 series was made in 1.4 million pieces and if you fail there, you might get away with using a Poljot 2612 stem which is the same movement, just a tiny bit larger (ca. 1mm) - although Ranfft gives different winding stems for the two movements. Consult an expert on this. As for the crown, getting an original will be near impossible but there will be plenty of generic alternatives that come close.

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    Re: My first alarm watch and questions.

    I assume that the alarm crown/stem is different from the time setting stem?
    Ill see if I can't find a replacement and I don't care so much for it being original, it wasn't signed anyway.

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