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    My first railroad pocket watch!! Huzzahs all around!

    Gentlemen of the forum,

    Congratulate me.

    I have just bought my FIRST EVER railroad pocket watch!

    The dial says:

    BALL
    Offical RR Standard
    Cleveland
    The movement says:

    The Ball Company.

    Swiss.

    21 Jewels.

    Adjusted temperature and isochronism.

    6 Position Adjustments.

    The dial has a couple of hairlines, but other than that, the watch (and the gold-filled case), is in perfect condition and runs like a top. I'll be sending it to my watchmaker tomorrow, just as a matter of precaution.

    It's lever-set and stem-wind.

    It was $160!!

    Please tell me this thing is real and that it's a genuine railroad watch and that I haven't been duped...I'm as high as a kite...
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    Re: My first railroad pocket watch!! Huzzahs all around!

    CONGRATULATIONS! can we some some pics it sounds good to me
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    Re: My first railroad pocket watch!! Huzzahs all around!

    Were are the photo's ? Congratulation's.

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    Re: My first railroad pocket watch!! Huzzahs all around!

    Photos coming soon!!

    Here we are!:



    New watch: left.
    My usual watch: Right.

    I'm not sure how big it is. My usual watch (right) is a 14-size. Would that make the RR watch a 16, then?



    Crystal off. Lever out. Lever is stiff, but comes out well enough to set the time.



    Caseback.



    Back of caseback and movement.
    Last edited by Shangas; January 2nd, 2010 at 23:12.
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    Re: My first railroad pocket watch!! Huzzahs all around!

    You got a real one on page 157 in the complete guide to watches it's made by the record watch co.(BXC) size 16,21 jewel M#435-B Adj 6 pos. swiss made the one in the book was made in 1961. But it's a Ball proberly one of the last ball's made.

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    Re: My first railroad pocket watch!! Huzzahs all around!

    So...is this from 1961? Or is it older? Or newer?

    I didn't see a serial number, so I've no idea how to date it.
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    Re: My first railroad pocket watch!! Huzzahs all around!

    Quote Originally Posted by Shangas View Post
    So...is this from 1961? Or is it older? Or newer?

    I didn't see a serial number, so I've no idea how to date it.
    The one in the book had that date under the photo yours could be older.Ball watch co was around from 1879-1969
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    Re: My first railroad pocket watch!! Huzzahs all around!

    Some advice from the experts, if you please...

    This watch runs pretty smooth. In fact I think it's probably already been serviced. I wound it up from slack and it's been going like a top ever since. And, being a railway watch, it's keeping perfect time.

    Should I have it serviced anyway? Or is there some way for a watchmaker to examine a watch and determine whether it's been serviced recently and would therefore, not require another service for a few years yet? I'm willing to pay for the servicing, but I don't want to feel like I'm sending my watchmaker something that's only going to be a waste of his time.

    Also...I generally do my own regulating. How difficult is it to regulate a watch like this, given the micrometric regulator and the swan-neck?
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    Re: My first railroad pocket watch!! Huzzahs all around!

    Watches can run just fine and still need servicing. A watchmaker should be able to tell if it's dirty from a visual inspection. Nothing from 1961 should be assumed to be OK unless a trusted seller confirms it. Why take the chance with a 21 jewel RR grade watch?

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    Re: My first railroad pocket watch!! Huzzahs all around!

    Yeah I suppose you're right, Ray. Better safe than sorry. If my watchmaker's open tomorrow, I'll visit him and speak to him about getting it serviced.

    Also, the dial has a couple of hairlines. Is it reasonable to ask the watchmaker to clean the dial a bit to get the dust and grit out from the hairlines so that they're not so obvious?

    Oh...and what about regulating? Is that something I can do myself with this watch, given the added complexity of the regulator? I prefer to regulate my own watches.

    ...All the technicalities over with...what do you think of my catch, Ray? I know you like railroad watches. NEVER in my life did I ever think I'd own one of these. I thought them too expensive and out of the reach of common, mortal peasants...
    Last edited by Shangas; January 3rd, 2010 at 05:21.
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