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    My latest catch

    Today I bought this Venus for 40 euros, during my visit at antique shops:

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    It is gold-plated but the gold is worn out. The back, as you can se has the number 691310 and inside it has the words "fond acier inoxydable" written. I searched about the movement in ranfft's site and I found 2 possible movements that match:
    bidfun-db Archive: Watch Movements: Venus 208
    bidfun-db Archive: Watch Movements: Venus 214

    This was certainly a good quality watch because as you can see the movement has a beautiful copper finish with decorations. My question is if the movement is Venus 208 or 214 and if these movements were inhouse or
    from companies like FHF,AS,ETA.

    Also do you know how old is this watch; I think that it was made in the 50ies because it's looks like other watches that were made in that decade.

    Thank you in advance.
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    Re: My latest catch

    Very good catch. I like pointer date watches a lot.

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    Re: My latest catch

    When I did a search on the Ranfft guide, the closest I could find is the FHF 170

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    Although still not sure that's spot on.
    But it if is, that would date the watch to the mid 40's.

    But wait for more expertise to chime in.
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    Re: My latest catch

    I like pointer dates too, so I think a very good price even for the condition. I think there was something of a fashion for these in the fifties so I'd go with that era too, but I'll let someone more expert on dating be more precise. Like Marrik I tend to get movements wrong, but from Rolands site you should have picked the 204 as it's a calendar movement. However I think this is actually something like an FHF 175.

    Edit: Beaten to it 170 is more like it.


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    My initial thought was that is a FHF movement but I searched the ranfft's site using the keyword "Venus" and the Venus 208 and 214 looked similar and they have sub second and date hand as my second. The FHF 170 has only sub second

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    Nice catch, I'd say it's from the early fifties too.

    It certainly looks like an FHF as has been pointed out but one of
    the movement buffs will pin it down exactly if it hasn't been already.

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    Re: My latest catch

    Quote Originally Posted by nick10 View Post
    My initial thought was that is a FHF movement but I searched the ranfft's site using the keyword "Venus" and the Venus 208 and 214 looked similar and they have sub second and date hand as my second. The FHF 170 has only sub second
    The base calibre is almost certainly the FHF 170 which will have been modified for the date function. I've never taken the dial off one of these pointer watches, but I'd suspect that the pointer hand is a simple under the dial feature. Someone who knows more about the mechanics of pointer dates will be able to confirm what is involved.


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    I looked carefully the Venus 208 and FHF 170 pictures on ranfft's site and I think that you are probably right. They look very similar and is not easy to spot the differences. any chance that the Venus 208 is based on FHF 170;

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    Bestfit only lists base movements for a couple Venus calibres and not for the Venus 208

    Since (mostly) Venus made their own movements, I would suggest that this is a Venus 208
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    Re: My latest catch

    I LOVE pointer dates. Well done!

    Certainly a calendar module was available for the FHF 175 - I have one and several Venus calendar pointers.

    FHF 175



    Venus 203

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