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    My Latest - An early wristwatch

    Hi Everyone,

    I thought that I would share this early wristy that a picked up for a very reasonable price this week. I am not totally certain, but I think that it is a mans watch from the period just prior to the introduction of factory cased wristwatches by American companies like Waltham and Elgin.

    BTW...The watch is yellow gold filled, it appear rose in the pictures but that is just my poor photography skills.

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    The case measures about 31 mm in diameter, and the case lugs are between 16 and 17 mm. This is essentially the same size as my Waltham Depolier trench - but with slightly wider lugs.

    Inside is a very nice Waltham 1907, Grade 165, 3/0s movement. The serial number dates it to 1907. Running beautifully. This movement was one of the reasons I bought the watch.

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    The case is a Keystone, gold-filled piece, with a hinged back. The markings are consistent with the ones used by Keystone in the period around 1910 - give or take several (or maybe many years).

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    So, given the production date of the movement (1907) - and leading the installation of the movement a few years for sitting in inventory, etc - it seems that the watch was put together somewhere around 1909/1910.

    I do have some question of whether or not this is a man's watch.

    I think that it is based on:
    The overall style - plain bezel, relatively narrow bezel, subseconds dial, dial and hands more consistent with Waltham's men's pocket watches than the ladies convertibles that I could find.
    The size of the watch and movement - 3/0s movement became the most common size for early American men's wristwatches, The overall size is also consistent with these watches.
    The quality of the movement - many (but nowhere near all) ladies watches of the period were 7j, standard regulator models.
    The lugs are made for a relatively wide strap...

    But, it could be a ladies' model...the gap between the lugs and case is narrow...not your standard enamel, radium numbered dial.

    Suffice to say that I am not certain whether this was a men's or ladies' watch...but I think that we should expect to see jeweler/watchmaker cased men's wristwatches, based on American cases and movements in the period just before the introduction of American factory-cased wristwatches. Obviously, the factory-cased watches were introduced because there was an existing demand/market sufficient to justify their introduction.

    What do y'all think?
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    Re: My Latest - An early wristwatch

    Very nice! I think my collection needs some earlier pieces like this.
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    Re: My Latest - An early wristwatch

    Hi.
    In my opinion
    Surely a mans wristwatch.. Probably a ladies pocket watch movements, but a mans wristwatch
    But never put to-gether 1909/10.
    More like 1916/17.
    That is based on American history on the take up of the wristwatch.
    Some may argue 1913 or 1915, but 1916/17 is safer to assume.
    Metal dial, fixed lugs
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    Re: My Latest - An early wristwatch

    A very nice early conversion. Congratulations.

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    Re: My Latest - An early wristwatch

    I would guess that this calls for further research into those case numbers.


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    Re: My Latest - An early wristwatch

    Whatta beauty Nice pickup, X traindriver Art

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    Re: My Latest - An early wristwatch

    Thanks all for the nice comments...More research is required but I think that I will enjoy wearing it regardless of the outcome. The watch is through the testing that I give all my incoming pieces that run (so I can assess what they need) and this watch did exceptionally well. Almost like it doesn't need service at all.

    Run time: 30.5 hrs. Error: +8 sec/day.

    20 bucks well spent...

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    Re: My Latest - An early wristwatch

    I would say that is a man's watch based entirely on the looks being quite masculine and the fact I'd wear it today. I hope this helps and nice find by the way.

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