My Luckiest Ever Job Lot Find .Day Two ..Icing on the Cake.
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    My Luckiest Ever Job Lot Find .Day Two ..Icing on the Cake.

    After discovering the nice Waltham pocket watch and the working Smiths Everest (that I was asking for info on yesterday ) I carried on sorting through the lot which consisted mostly of broken Timex,Ingersoll and a few other no name watches,pocket watches and even a cheap fully working stopwatch. I managed to scavenge for the odd crown or buckle for my spares tins before disposing of the worst of them.Name:  56.jpg
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    then I came across a 9ct gold watch case
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    Next up was a very grubby 38mm pocket watch which after a bit of gentle cleaning began to show lovely amounts of detail.
    I presume it`s a men`s size even though the decoration is very floral and ornate.
    The dial seems all metal with the details either engraved or maybe partially etched on.
    Very fine blued steel hands.
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Size:  175.8 KB.The case seems well constructed and I was able to find a silver mark but can`t identify it - If anyone can help I`d be grateful.
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    From the other markings inside and the help of the Mikrolisk website I think I`ve identified it as being made by Baume & Lezard a Swiss registered company but I have no idea how old the watch is -maybe early 1900`s??
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    I know very little about pocket watches but it looks to me that a key is needed to both wind and set the hands on this watch.
    The balance swings freely for about 20 seconds when given a gentle push with a cocktail stick so I`m now on the hunt for some small pw keys to see if I can bring it back to life.
    The last two items are really the stars of the lot I suppose- a ladies cocktail Omega and for the gentleman (That`ll be my good self ) a slightly worse for wear Omega Seamaster !

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    Ladies calibre 620,model ref 511.015 .. crystal needs a polish and there are scratches to the rear case due to an amateur opening attempt at some time.Not running at present but my watchmaker said this morning it just has a tangled hairspring that can be sorted easily with a service and then a re-brush to the case back. That will be for it`s next owner though as I`ll use the proceeds from it`s sale towards the service and re-juvenation of my first ever Omega :0)
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    It`s looking a bit sad at the moment but worked from the start after gentle movement so the auto is running -a good sign.
    The crown /stem is missing and I can see no way into the case -my watchguy confirmed today it`s a split stem and the movement goes in through the front.
    The crystal is past salvation but the plating looks very good .
    I couldn`t see any markings but I`d guess maybe 40 microns or possibly higher.
    I`ve not had access inside yet so any Omega fans that fancy letting me know what movement of delight or dissapointment may lay within feel free to comment.
    I think the watch dates to around the mid `60`s but I`m not sure -opinions welcomed.
    Is this type of case known by a certain style name?

    Overall my best ever watch win...hopefully the happy ending of a restored Ommie on my wrist will come true without breaking my wallet .
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    Re: My Luckiest Ever Job Lot Find .Day Two ..Icing on the Cake.

    The watch is indeed key wind and -set (both in the back), cylinder escapement. The case material is Argentan, also called German silver (first major use there) or new silver or nickel silver. The term is a bit misleading, as Argentum is the Latin word for silver, but Argentan has nothing to do with that. It is a copper alloy with nickel, zinc and occasionally other 'ingredients'. It was often used to replace silver as a cheaper material, but has also its advantages as it is much harder and more durable.

    Have to do a little research on 'Baume' to find out who it is unless somebody is faster.

    Text added: There was indeed somebody faster with the answer. Hartmut answered that already in 2013:

    https://forums.watchuseek.com/f11/ide...ch-798843.html
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    Re: My Luckiest Ever Job Lot Find .Day Two ..Icing on the Cake.

    Great info on the silver explanation and the Hartmut link @ Border.
    I have heard of nickle silver but not Argentan.
    Precious metals aren`t my strong point :0)
    Yesterday I learned about tritum re-dials by the British miltary -today it`s a beginners class in silver.

    Update:
    Just read the info on the link and if the dates estimate of 1850`s-1870`s is correct tehn the B&L is by far the oldest watch in my collection.
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    Re: My Luckiest Ever Job Lot Find .Day Two ..Icing on the Cake.

    Check your Seamaster between the lugs at the six side. The case material is marked there sometimes. Those bezels are often 14k. Sounds like you checked already but just to be sure. Great pieces you have there. Nice finds.
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    Re: My Luckiest Ever Job Lot Find .Day Two ..Icing on the Cake.

    Thanks Giotime,
    I have checked all over on the outside but no sig of a mark- once the case is opened I`m guessing the info will be contained within the model reference number on the inner case

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    Re: My Luckiest Ever Job Lot Find .Day Two ..Icing on the Cake.

    Nice Omega, I'm guessing it's probably got A 5XX series movement in it, nice find.

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    Re: My Luckiest Ever Job Lot Find .Day Two ..Icing on the Cake.

    Thanks Matt,
    The Omega is already with my local watchmaker for a new crown and crystal.
    I`m unsure as to whether to keep it or put the proceeds of selling it on to get a different model that appeals more to me aesthetically at the moment.
    I already have some nice gold (plated ) dress style watches and my preference would be a SS cased Ommie I think.
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    My Luckiest Ever Job Lot Find .Day Two ..Icing on the Cake.

    When it returns, wear it for a few days, if it still does float your boat then sell it and use the proceeds.

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