50 years of accumulating all kinds of watches without regard to a specific model except lately Gruens. My first oldest was 1872 German Grossmann bought from father, who inherited from original Uncle owner, at junk gold price. It sold before I started accumulating mainly gold watches for investment reasons and before developing a technical and historical proper collector interest, for ten times its cost that was a jeweler appraisal not watchmaker's. Like many I tended toward acquiring the finer late 19th century American. Generally ignored the real antiques as too expensive. However, have a few back to early 1700 English and Swiss p.w. and to me interesting w.w. from near 1900. Am starting this thread to hopefully see some real antiques from anywhere that do not often appear as well as anyones' they choose to show. Looking for oldest, not necessarily a best oldest. My oldest is 1723 George Grahm ruby cylinder recased with fresh dial about 1812 so a relatively affordable one from a fine English maker.