My Stratford Watch Movement Investigation Continues

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    Question My Stratford Watch Movement Investigation Continues

    I bought this sweet Stratford watch last year and showed it here without a movement shot. Folks here thought it was most likely a Langford movement with low jewel count. I unfortunately had to take it in to my watch guy and took a movement shot. Im more and less informed than I was previously. Its a 17J something, stamped by AD Allemann Son Ltd. I couldnt find Allemann in a brief search, but Im guessing its a British firm importing Swiss movements,and casing them. I know nothing about identifying movements, so Im hoping someone here would recognize it. Maybe know something about Alleman as well.Thanks in advance, with fingers crossed.
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    Re: My Stratford Watch Movement Investigation Continues

    Its an AS1158 or similar bidfun-db Archive: Watch Movements: AS 1158 "differences not known between 1158, 1187, 1190, 1213"

    ALLEMANN Ad. & Fils S.A. Manufacture d’Horlogerie ROSIERES Soloturn

    That's Adolf Allemann. See https://forums.watchuseek.com/f11/ad-...lp-564688.html

    Mikrolisk Mikrolisk - was Feines für die Tasche... - Das Informationsportal rund um die Taschenuhr! gives many brand names they used, of which I think Tourist is probably the best known.
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    Re: My Stratford Watch Movement Investigation Continues

    Thanks Marrick. I was entering a misspelling in my searches. When my idiocy ended, I did find they were a fairly big maker of watches. Tourist being the best known and most common, as you said. Did they make or buy movements? And what is the quality? Any responses welcome. Hint. Hint.

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    Re: My Stratford Watch Movement Investigation Continues

    Quote Originally Posted by parrotandpitbull View Post
    Thanks Marrick. I was entering a misspelling in my searches. When my idiocy ended, I did find they were a fairly big maker of watches. Tourist being the best known and most common, as you said. Did they make or buy movements? And what is the quality? Any responses welcome. Hint. Hint.
    Nice watch P&P,

    Allemann never made movements, but bought in generally decent quality Swiss ébauches.
    Here's the Tourist I recently sold on to finance even more French!



    This had a Felsa 465, a quite unusual movement of the late 1940's/early 1950's

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    Re: My Stratford Watch Movement Investigation Continues

    Hi!

    I agree with the AS 1187 - here´s one of mine for compare, it´s from a WWII-Rado:

    military Rado, ca. 1944, private labeled as Bullock´s

    Best regards, Mike

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    Re: My Stratford Watch Movement Investigation Continues

    Quote Originally Posted by mike184 View Post
    Hi!

    I agree with the AS 1187 - here´s one of mine for compare, it´s from a WWII-Rado:

    military Rado, ca. 1944, private labeled as Bullock´s

    Hi Mike, for soem reason I can't access the first photo of your Bullock's Rado
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    Re: My Stratford Watch Movement Investigation Continues

    Hi John!

    Strange - but you should see it here.
    Best regards, Mike

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    Re: My Stratford Watch Movement Investigation Continues

    Thanks folks for all the info. John, your hotel looks lovely, in and out. If I ever find myself in France again, I would certainly come and stay. Your prices seem very reasonable as well. One point on the Stratford: It seems odd to me that there wouldnt be copyright protection for Lancos Stratford watch. There is no Stratford brand listed on the Allemann informational website. Its the 1950s and here there are 2 Stratford watches on the market. Im thinking maybe this is a watch marketed in Britain as per the Ltd at the end of AD Allemann Sons Ltd. Im probably over thinking the whole thing. And my Investigation is done.

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    Re: My Stratford Watch Movement Investigation Continues

    I believe it is an AS 1194 which is 11.5''' diameter while the 1187 is 10.5'''
    I'm a watchbreaker not a watchmaker.

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