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    A mysterious Reverso

    I inherited this Favre Leuba Reverso from my uncle. What intrigues me is its Staybrite case. I've never seen one like this before (although a bit similar to the Cartier Tank Reverso). As you may know, the history of Favre Leuba - JLC is very intricate , I would really like to know whether this unnamed movement is a JLC one. In the 1930s Favre Leuba was a distributor of the original Reverso in colonial India.
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    Re: A mysterious Reverso

    Now that's cool

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    Re: A mysterious Reverso

    Beautiful watch, in excellent condition.
    Staybrite is a name for Stainless Steel.
    Read about it here:
    Stainless Steel in Watches

    I would say your watch dates to the mid-late 1930's.

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    Re: A mysterious Reverso

    A pretty rare piece
    As you may know Jaeger-LeCoultre guard the name reverso, and no other watch may use it. Favre did only a few pieces, I suspect then blocked by JLC, although I have no proof to that.

    I have a 1933 Jaeger and a 1938 Hamilton (OTIS). Rumour is Jaeger sued Hamilton, and they stopped production, but despite a lot of research by myself and curator at JLC, no evidence exist

    Here are mine, a 1933 JLC beside a 1938 Hamilton.








    Yours is a super piece, and one I would like in my collection
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    Re: A mysterious Reverso

    The Favre-Leuba looks and operates totally differently to the JLC Reverso, so I doubt JLC could have done anything about this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bobbee View Post
    The Favre-Leuba looks and operates totally differently to the JLC Reverso, so I doubt JLC could have done anything about this.

    It is the name 'reverso' based on a wristwatch that the display flips like that within the case, that JLC protect.
    I got that info directly from Dubey and Scaldenbrand who made the Spiral-Verso - VIP.
    They could not use the name REVERSO.

    and, see how many Hamilton or Favre exist in the wild
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    Re: A mysterious Reverso

    Quote Originally Posted by HOROLOGIST007 View Post
    It is the name 'reverso' based on a wristwatch that the display flips like that within the case, that JLC protect.
    I got that info directly from Dubey and Scaldenbrand who made the Spiral-Verso - VIP.
    They could not use the name REVERSO.

    and, see how many Hamilton or Favre exist in the wild
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    Not seeing where it says "Reverso" on the OP's stunning watch.
    It actually has a patent stamp in the case too.
    So I think F-L protected this design, whatever it's real name is.

    Rotary marketed several designs called the "Revelation" for quite some time. Don't remember hearing of them having any trouble from JLC, but I haven't really looked.

    The Hamilton is a different matter, as it is a blatant copy, unlike the F-L.
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    Re: A mysterious Reverso

    Responding to op

    JLC never had a movement to fit the case in 1931 to 1933, so they used the caliber 064 from Tavannes, it had no seconds at all.
    in 1933 jaeger introduced the caliber 11 or 410, it has s sub seconds at 6
    then they launched the caliber 11 USC or 411, and it had an indirect centre sweep seconds like mine.

    Your ur movement does not look like the JLC caliber 11/410
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    Re: A mysterious Reverso

    Thinking how much the black dial Reverso looks like the Bulova Blackhawk variant.



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    who had the US patent, hamilton or Chauvot?
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