Need confirmation for a Hampden pocket watch (56K warning!)
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    Need confirmation for a Hampden pocket watch (56K warning!)

    Sorry to barge into the forum without any useful contributions, as I'm a newbie when it comes to watches. I've had a very nice Molnija pocket watch with a train engraving on its case (which I broke due to my enthusiastic "fixing" behavior, namely a boring day and a screwdriver), but now my interest is in a pocket watch my grandfather gave me.

    It's a Hampden watch, and he said that he read from a book called American Watches: Hampden Watches (or something like that) that the piece is from 1873. I stumbled upon a page yesterday that you can input the movement's serial number (I assume), and it gave me this:

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    So according to that, the watch is made in 1895. I tried to break this down to my grandpa, but he kinda refuses to believe in the "online sources". So, dear knowledgeable persons, can you find any info on this watch from anywhere else than that website I checked? I found a watch with a similar-looking case from eBay, but it doesn't look the same... Nevertheless, here are the photos of my watch. Feel free to click them to get a bigger version:

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    Re: Need confirmation for a Hampden pocket watch (56K warning!)

    Nice looking watch; in 1895, a size 6 watch would most likely have been a ladies watch. This certainly looks typical for that era, and it matches known pictures of the Hampden size 6 movement.
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    Yes makes sense. I show 1897
    But close enough
    Its the alter history of Hampden Dueber = that is most interesting
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    Re: Need confirmation for a Hampden pocket watch (56K warning!)

    The copy and paste I recognize as being from the Chapter 149 database. This was compiled by Henry Burgell, who is a Hampden collector, and is based heavily on his own observations as well as work done by Bob Arnold and a few others. Bob Arnold "wrote the book" on Hampdens.

    Hamdpen didn't become Hampden until 1877, so it would be difficult for the watch to have been made in 1873.

    Mid to late 1890s is the date I see in the print sources I doubled checked.
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    Re: Need confirmation for a Hampden pocket watch (56K warning!)

    OK, thank you all for help, I really appreciate it. AbslomRob, you're right, grandpa said these were called "tit watches" back then because it was held by women, presumably in a pocket in the breast area :)

    I think this is not a very valuable watch so I'm not going to fulfill grandpa's wish to sell this. This has way bigger emotional value than a few tenners, as he's been holding on to this watch from 1972, and now gave it to me to inspect and sell.

    By the way, can you explain what the grade means? I couldn't really find info on it, and grandpa didn't know either.

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    Re: Need confirmation for a Hampden pocket watch (56K warning!)

    In this context, "Grade" refers to the level of quality of the "finish" of the watch. The watch "model" defines the basic plate design; all "Model 3" watches started with the same basic plates, but there were different levels of jeweling and finishing. So the grade distinguishes those. From what I can tell, there was only really one "model" for the 6 size Hampdens. Yours is grade 206, which is 11 jewels. There was a 7 jewel verion (grade 200), a 17 jewel version (grade 220) etc. Sometimes the "Grade" was a name (like the 0 size "Molly Stark" grade).

    In car terms, it'd be like a 'trim' level, I guess.
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    All right, thanks for the info, Rob.

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