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    Need help identifying these pocket watches

    Hi All,
    although having some knowledge about wristwatches, I know nothing about pocket watches.
    I inheritated these pocket watches from my father several years ago.
    The first two (Vendome) have never been worn and were kept in a safe all those years.
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    The third one (Robert Cart) I can remember my father using a few times and I did the same (it was a present at the time when Brasilia - the capital of Brazil - was founded).
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    All I know is that they are from the 1960s.
    Maybe someone who is familiar with pocket watches could give me some information ( I already tried searching the net, auctions and online auctions with no success).
    Any information is highly appreciated.
    Regards.

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    Re: Need help identifying these pocket watches

    Movement pics would help.... a lot! What are the dimensions of the watches?

    The first may be a small alarm clock encased in a pocket watch case...??
    "Forever is composed of nows." - Emily Dickinson

    "The watch has to be surrounded by a history.
    You need more than just a great design. You need to create an atmosphere around the product.
    Who is the company behind it? Why are they using this material?
    People need to be able to identify the watch with themselves. It's based on emotion." - Ralph Furter

    ...that's just my opinion and I've been wrong before and will be again and might be now!

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    Re: Need help identifying these pocket watches

    Well, the first two are obviously modern (i.e. post WWII) as well and have movements that normally go into the small travel alarms from the fifties and sixties. The third will also probably have a wrist watch rather than a true pocket watch movement inside. Robert Cart was probably Fabrique d'Horlogerie Robert Cart SA in Le Locle, Switzerland, founded in 1946.

    Hartmut Richter

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    Re: Need help identifying these pocket watches

    Hi there,

    the patent number on both alarm watches indicates Baumgartner as manufacturer, likely this calibre:
    bidfun-db Archive: Watch Movements: Baumgartner 222
    It was introduced in 1940.

    Here the bell/cap of another watch with Baumgartner 222 for comparison:



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    Re: Need help identifying these pocket watches

    Movement pics would help.... a lot! What are the dimensions of the watches?

    The first may be a small alarm clock encased in a pocket watch case...??

    Thanks for the information.
    The Vendome watches have a diameter of 52.70 mm.
    The movement can be seen below:
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    The Robert Cart has a diameter of 35.05 mm.
    I didnt want to open it because Im afraid of damaging the case.
    Thanks for your help.

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    Re: Need help identifying these pocket watches

    Thanks for the information.
    May I assume that these watches are not very expensive?
    Regards.

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    Re: Need help identifying these pocket watches

    Hi there,

    the patent number on both alarm watches indicates Baumgartner as manufacturer, likely this calibre:
    bidfun-db Archive: Watch Movements: Baumgartner 222
    It was introduced in 1940.

    Here the bell/cap of another watch with Baumgartner 222 for comparison:



    Regards, Roland Ranfft

    Vielen Dank fr die Information.
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    Re: Need help identifying these pocket watches

    Well, the alarm ones certainly aren't. Travel alarms like those can be had on fleabay quite cheaply and the fact that they are PWs rather than small portable clocks hardly makes a difference. As for the last watch, we'd have to see the insides but, just as a warning before you get it opened, we don't give definite quotes or even price ranges here.

    Hartmut Richter

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