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    Need help restoring vintage pocket watch: Breitling/Wakmann

    Here are my two first pocket watches. They are Breitling/Wakmann military. One of them is in perfect working condition, the other was broken. Does anyone know the value of thess pieces? I'm considering restoring them and want to know how much I should spend on them.

    The two watches are identical except for the movement. The dials are beautiful and signed Breitling. The back cases also signed Breitling. The movements however signed Wakmann. One has 17; one has 18 jewels.

    Here are some pictures of the good one:





    Followed are pictures of the one that's broken: The movement is rusty and not working. I was told the mindspring was broken. The small hands are missing as well.

    Any suggestion for the watchmaker who can work on this piece? Local in NYC is great, if not, I'm willing to ship it too.

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    also looking at the dial close up

    What would the original Breitling signature be on the dial? Should it be white?


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    Re: Need help restoring vintage pocket watch: Breitling/Wakmann

    A very sad situation indeed.
    I know very little about chronographs and even less about militaria so I'll have to hope that one of our experts comes by as far as valuation goes.
    However you have the horological equivalent of a write-off there, I'd say. Very expensive proposition to restore. Unless it's a family heirloom or you know that someone famous owned it, don't bother. I'd estimate the cost of repair to be far more than the watch is worth. Rust is the ultimate mechanical watch killer.
    My guess on age is just after World War II but we'll see what the real experts have to say. Mike or Hartmut please check in on this if you see this post.

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    Re: Need help restoring vintage pocket watch: Breitling/Wakmann

    The first one is a fine looking pocket watch. I do not know the cost to restore the second one, but like Ray said, it would probably be expensive due to the corrosion damage.
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    Re: Need help restoring vintage pocket watch: Breitling/Wakmann

    As you are in the USA you could contact Mr. Mark Heist at www.horologicalservices.com. They are specialists in vintage breitlings.
    This respected restorer will be able to give you a qualified opinion on the level of damage and the possibility of resurrecting them.
    Please take the time to read up about them on their site and understand how they work.
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    Re: Need help restoring vintage pocket watch: Breitling/Wakmann

    Both are extremely similar. Both seem to have a Valjoux movement, which are normally identifiable by their nine columns on the column wheel - looks like that was modified to accommodate a single lever system by reducing to six. No shockproofing on the balance plus nice temperature screws on at least one of the balances (the other one seems to be swinging so it's difficult to tell) - overall, could easily be inter-war period rather than just post WWII.

    As for repair, that would be a major job. Could be done, no doubt, but at what cost is another matter. Rust on structural parts (bridges, plates and cocks) seems to be superficial and could probably be got off with a repolish but as for the rest, je ne sais..... Depends very much on how much is really bust and what the watch is worth when finished.

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    Re: Need help restoring vintage pocket watch: Breitling/Wakmann

    SnapIT, I contacted horologicalservices.com and will send them the watch for exam. They said they are very familiar with this Breitling military pocket watch. I think it was issued to US military.

    Will keep my finger cross and see how's the outcome.

    thank you all, for your responses.

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