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    Need ID Help On This Swiss Made Private Label

    Hey folks, I'm looking to nail down the manufacturer on this one, or at least narrow down the field. I can't open the works. The back cover is unhinged, meaning it unscrews or snaps off. However, it's so small, I can't figure out how to make that happen. Besides that, it keeps perfect time, so I'm not very eager at this point to risk damaging it. If I absolutely must open the case, I figure I'll take my chances on a jeweler for that.

    Any ideas on this one, I'd surely appreciate hearing them. I know that's a tall order, given you can't see the movement. Thanks.
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    Looks like rather modern pocket watch to me.
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    Re: Need ID Help On This Swiss Made Private Label

    Quote Originally Posted by jedanzoom View Post
    Looks like rather modern pocket watch to me.
    Thank you. Anybody else have any observations/ideas?

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    Re: Need ID Help On This Swiss Made Private Label

    Guess not knowing the manufacturer is always a problem with rebranded store watches.

    I saw a Hardy & Hayes watch at an antique store recently that seemed to be running strong, but didn't pick it up because I couldn't figure out who made the movement.

    When was Marshall Field taken over by Macy's?
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    Re: Need ID Help On This Swiss Made Private Label

    Marshall Field at one time was thee Chicago department store so it's likely of very high quality.

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    Re: Need ID Help On This Swiss Made Private Label

    The short answer is 2005 with the Fields name disappearing in 2006. It stopped being an independent company in 1982, and went through numerous owners, at each stop it became less distinct.

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    The takeover happened within the last five or ten years, if memory serves correctly. It would be nice, of course, were they still in business, in which case a call to customer service might prove productive. On a hunch, I called Macy's on this, and they've been all but interested in helping me out.

    Listen, I know you folks need to see the movement. Even if its markings are just contract-related, given the breadth of knowledge, here, one or more of you might be able pick up on something, on just the style. I'm very sorry I can't accommodate you, there (at least, at this point in time). I've looked everywhere on this rim...for a lip, or notch (and under 10X magnification)...and, I can't find anything that would indicate it would be opened, there. And, I can't risk forcing anything, and possibly damaging it. Maybe were it a Timex (no disrespect intended), I'd get out a sharp knife, and take a chance. But, not on something like this.

    That said, what about just some practical advice on some approaches for further information? For example, are there auction houses I might want to contact? If so, what would those be? Anything else, any further "avenues?" Just start throwing out some ideas. I really don't know where I'd start, there. Look, thanks again...

    EDIT: Yes, Mike, 2005 sounds about right. I think I thought five or ten years due to the brain cramp I'm experiencing right now on this watch...
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    Re: Need ID Help On This Swiss Made Private Label

    Here you may find some help on how to open the case, we still need to see the movement:
    https://forums.watchuseek.com/showthread.php?t=158603

    Marshall Field catalog from 1896, although your watch may not have any relation to those listed there. Consider the link as related to the private label only:
    http://elginwatches.org/scans/sales_.../m_pg_192.html
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    http://elginwatches.org/scans/sales_.../m_pg_191.html
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    Re: Need ID Help On This Swiss Made Private Label

    Quote Originally Posted by Erik_H View Post
    Here you may find some help on how to open the case, we still need to see the movement:
    https://forums.watchuseek.com/showthread.php?t=158603

    Marshall Field catalog from 1896, although your watch may not have any relation to those listed there. Consider the link as related to the private label only:
    http://elginwatches.org/scans/sales_.../m_pg_192.html
    and
    http://elginwatches.org/scans/sales_.../m_pg_191.html
    Thank you. Read those, earlier. Read this, too, at the bottom of that case link:

    !!!!!!!NOTE:!!!!!!!!!
    NEVER, NEVER, NEVER FORCE ANYTHING. If the case you are trying to open
    is giving you trouble, bring it to a watchmaker and ask them to open it for you.


    Of course, there's the chance, in the largest watch forum in the world, that somebody might come along and recognize it by sight. Or, as I've been considering, that the right auction house might. I could still use a hand on identifying some of those, BTW. I know one thing, though, I can't open it. In fact, I'm not too sure I even want a watchmaker to try that, given how nice it's running. At least, for the immediate future, I think I'm going to continue to take my chances on somebody coming along and recognizing this big department store branded watch by sight, or, in the alternative, pointing me to a good auction house that might. No disrespect intended, there, of course, Erik. I know you folks are of the most use when you can see those works, that's understood.



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