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    Need info on early 1900's Pocket watch

    Hey guys,
    I just received this and it was part of my great grandfathers belongings. I'd love to find out as much as I can. It could either be German or American made most likely and would be prior to 1940. There are no markings on the case or dial that I could see. If anyone can shed some light it would be appreciated !!!




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    Without a view on the movement its impossible to say something about the orgin. From outside it looks sureley made after 1900 and before 1930. The pin set seaks for european orgin but please aloow a view under the cover and dustcover.

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    Hey silks. Thanks. Back shot.



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    Hi there,

    after the style of crown, pendant, and dial the watch was made between 1900 and 1910. The evolution of these details around 1900 are described in this thread:
    https://forums.watchuseek.com/f11/hel...-536982-2.html

    The german hallmark (crown) and Swiss hallmark (squirrl) indicate that the case, and likely the whole watch was made in Switzerland for the German market. Unfortunately I can't make out the maker's mark in your photo.

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    Re: Need info on early 1900's Pocket watch

    Roland thank you !!. I'm actually taking it to my watchmaker today to see if it can be identified further. I'm at least going to get a few shots of the mechanism. After at least 30 years of no use I gave it a wind and it worked and kept time right away !!!. I'm hoping I can keep it completely intact. I'll post pics of the movement as soon as I can.

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    Re: Need info on early 1900's Pocket watch

    Took a pic of the movement and inside case. It's a Unitas. Anyone know anything or can steer me where to look for more info? It would be appreciated.




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    I must say that I rather doubt that this came from the watch movement maker Unitas of Tramelan (at one time associated with ARSA, now Auguste Reymond SA). The movement is all wrong for Unitas and is even rather wrong for a Swiss movement. With that 3/4 plate, it looks rather more Germanic.

    Doing a search for "Unitas" in Mikrolisk also shows up "Isidor Heilbronner", a watch vendor in München (Munich) and, all things considered, I would think that this is a watch assembled or comissioned by him under the brand name "Unitas" rather than a Swiss watch.

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    Hartmut, thanks for your direction. I cross checked the stamps on the back and indeed it bears the stamp of Isidor Heilbronner !!! My watchmaker here opened and serviced it and can (reasonably) verify that all parts are original on the watch. I am now on a search to find what the stamped numbers mean on the watch, and any information about the man himself.
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    Re: Need info on early 1900's Pocket watch

    The "0,585" indicates solid 14K gold as case material and the other number is probably a case serial number. The woman in the shield is, of course, the trademark of Isidor Heilbronner.

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    Thank you sir. I'm trying to figure out the numbers "11 96 75". Quite frankly I am in complete awe that this piece is from that era, still works and is in excellent shape. I visit Europe frequently and think I will try to find someone who can review the piece and provide any missing info. I don't really care whether the watch is worth anything. I am more interested in verifying its History.


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