(sorry for confusion, if any. I copy-posted this from the 'other' VC thread because this is my own question)
Well-don't ask how or for details but I was able to strike a deal with the owner for this watch that was mutually agreeable considering its condition issues-such as...its DISAPPEARING LOGO!!! here are some other pics:
2.notice how much more faded the logo is from op's pic from a few days ago.:
3.the crystal (probably from the 70s) cleaned up nicely but it wasn't done yet in this photo which shows how badly I need a TOP NOTCH refinisher/redialer:
So-the above is the Vacheron and Constantin in question: As you can see the dial is in pretty bad shape and disintegrating in what seems like before my eyes. Yes-I bought the poor guys watch. It has an inscription on the back which lowers its value as well as a few other issues that we negotiated a much more 'realistic' price for.
NOW-my BIGGEST issue is WHAT TO DO WITH THE DIAL? I guess no matter how much 'patina' I can tolerate this dial is BEYOND. Beyond beyond. The guy took his picture a few nights ago and swore he didn't do ANYTHING to try and clean it (and I believe him) yet it arrived with the '12' half gone as well as the V&C /Geneve Suisse even more faded then before. So-wetehr I decide to keep or flip I have to get a service (Don't think its too bad. I was able to get it running for a few minutes but don't want to push it. It may just need a c/s.
But the dial. I had a BAD experience with Kirk in Pittsbrg, PA. And it seems to me-As long as I have an original and complete 1938 VC with matching signed case with the leCoutre ..?.. movement that VC bought and finished and regulated to time and temp I should NOT skimp on the dial. So I need some suggestions on how I might proceed:
A) do I get it serviced by my regular guy and then send it out for the dial?
B) Do I send it out for the dial and THEN send it to my guy?
C) Should I find a guy who has expertise in this VC/leCoutre combo and have him do everything?
D) none of the above
E) ANY of the above
The point is-I don't have or want to spend an unnecessary fortune on this watch to get it up to speed. If I throw in the towel with the dial and accept I have to have it refinished to bring ANY value-I would ONLY go top notch re-dialer (as I have had it with bargain and/or mediocre refinishers. How much is an average dial cost to refinish at a quality level (meaning-there are NO applied numerals/logos to remove which I believe is what determines cost of refinish). The service I can deal with.
Also-what are vintage experts thoughts on buffing out the Inscription on the case back? (its NOT just initials which I could live with-Its a whole personalized sentence) The case is solid and not thin but I really don't know if buffing it out will take too much metal and/or even look that much better then living with the aug.15, 1944 (anniv of Operation Dragoon in Southern France ww2-btw)
1-To Refinish or Not, and if so...any tips, or referrals as to where? (I remember a guy out in L.A. being mentioned but forgot his name. Any others will be appreciated. And how much to spend on a redial if the goal is for resale? I can't even guess what this watch might bring in this condition. The prices for online retailers are absurd and ended auctions are anywhere from $400-over $1000. I am NOT under any illusions that a SS 30s VC will bring down what a modern (or pre 1920s) piece will bring.
2-to remove inscription or leave it be. Case is not gold-so it won't remove anything but SS however I'd like opinons on how this has turned out for guys here?
3-the the ULTIMATE question...To Sell or Not to Sell? Any opinions on that I would like to here as well. (just an FYI-the case is square 26mmX26mm so its rather delicate. Case is pretty thin too. It DEFINITELY would make a VERY sharp watch on alligator black for a banker or other upper echelon guy who dresses to the nines
Thanks. Hope this post gets picked up where I joined in so I don't have to start a new thread. uuff! thanx