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    Need your expertise on 2 vintage pocket watches

    My grandmother passed away recently and while helping my mother going through her belongings, I found these two old pocket watches. I know absolutely nothing about pocket watches so if anyone here have some information at all on these I would appreciate it a lot. Don't have lots of pictures yet, just these I quickly snapped:

    First one. No markings on the dial, however it has the omega logo on the inside of the case:
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    The other one said "Albert & fils" on the inside:
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    I will try to get more/better pics later on.

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    Re: Need your expertise on 2 vintage pocket watches

    The first is crown wound and probably crown set (I can't see a pin in the case at around 1:00 but maybe the chain is obscuring it too much) and is from ca. 1900. The second is key wound and set (no crown!) and is therefore older, probably pre-1880. Without any movement pictures, we won't be able to say much more, I'm afraid.

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    Re: Need your expertise on 2 vintage pocket watches

    Quote Originally Posted by Hartmut Richter View Post
    The first is crown wound and probably crown set (I can't see a pin in the case at around 1:00 but maybe the chain is obscuring it too much) and is from ca. 1900. The second is key wound and set (no crown!) and is therefore older, probably pre-1880. Without any movement pictures, we won't be able to say much more, I'm afraid.

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    Thank you Hartmut. Yes, the Omega is crown set and wound, i tried turning it a couple of turns and it started ticking so it seems to be working.

    I will try to get more pictures (and movement pictures) in a few days. Is it easy to expose the movement on these types of watches?

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    On older pocket watches, using a sharp knife, it should be easy if you exercise some caution. There should be a notch in the case at around 11:00, allowing you to pry it open. Try it with your finger nail first, it risks less damage.

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    Re: Need your expertise on 2 vintage pocket watches

    Quote Originally Posted by Hartmut Richter View Post
    On older pocket watches, using a sharp knife, it should be easy if you exercise some caution. There should be a notch in the case at around 11:00, allowing you to pry it open. Try it with your finger nail first, it risks less damage.

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    Thank you, i will try that and get back with more pictures.
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    Re: Need your expertise on 2 vintage pocket watches

    I took some more pictures today, unfortunately with My iPhone so might not be the best quality. Hope this helps a bit at least:

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    A&F:
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    I have more pictures if needed.

    Thanks
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    Re: Need your expertise on 2 vintage pocket watches

    Hallo and wellcome,
    the Omega is a real Omega with a in house movement and fortunately only the gunmetal case seems to get some wetness inside. The 15 jewel movement looks as it is in a very good state. Probably the movementnumber is beyond the dial and I'm not familar with omega but I guess others could say more. My stomach says also around 1900/10 is a good adoption.
    The other one jump direct into my heart. From the technical point of view its a simple cylinder escapement with I can't see it really but I guess 6 stones buuuutttt its a wonderful Lepine III. These movements are nowadays quite rare to see especially in women watches. These calibers where build since 1830 and where replaced around 1840 step by step by the Lepine IV. Rawmovements where used but the finess of this thin calbers is excellent. WONDERFUL and the dial ....a gread heirloom. I found a watchmaker Aubert J.D. & Fils listen 1815 in Geneve.
    If the case is very thin its a golden one. Hallmarks wasn't used in switzerland at those times.

    Two really nice watches
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    Re: Need your expertise on 2 vintage pocket watches

    The second one looks like it's missing its mainspring bridge, though. I am not sure what is holding the mainspring in place (except the centre gear and its cock, perhaps).....

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    Re: Need your expertise on 2 vintage pocket watches

    Upps ..yes Hartmut your right. Such a big peace. I was flashed by this watch that I didn't recognize it. The bridge is missing.

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    Re: Need your expertise on 2 vintage pocket watches

    Thanks so much for your information SilkeN and Hartmut!

    Too bad on the missing bridge on the A&F :/

    Would it be worth it to try to restore any of these?

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