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    New member needs help identifying 2 pocket watches

    Hi there! This is the first time I've ever joined a forum, so I really don't know what I'm doing, bear with me please! I started collecting pocket watches 2 years ago. Mostly Elgins. I came across a unique find some months ago at a flea market, and have been trying to find some info about it ever since. Then, today, I came across what I assume to be a late 1800's watch. The brand on the dial is Figaro. Nothing on the movement. When I search online, all I'm getting is figaro style chains. The Figaro is running beautifully. The other watch is not working, but I suspect the main spring. Any information would be greatly appreciated!!!
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    Re: New member needs help identifying 2 pocket watches

    Hi and welcome
    Two old pieces indeed
    The non working looks Russian (from the writing on top plate - not sure to that) - I Love the old picture in the case.
    Without seeing the movement I can only guess its not verge escapement, and is a cylinder escapement
    1860s? to 1900
    Send pics or describe movement Fusee? Verge Escapement? Cylinder Escapement
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    Re: New member needs help identifying 2 pocket watches

    If there is no other mark on the dial or movement of the first watch(like "Swiss" or "Swiss made"),than its probably made in German manufacture od Wilhelm Jerger.Movement looks like Roskopf to me.

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    Re: New member needs help identifying 2 pocket watches

    There's a center wheel, so not a Roskopf. But does look like a rather low-grade movement dressed up to look like a higher grade American watch.
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    Re: New member needs help identifying 2 pocket watches

    Horologist007, it appears to be a cylinder escapement upon closer inspection. jedanzoom, no other markings on dial or movement. Thanks for taking the time to reply to my thread everyone!

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    Re: New member needs help identifying 2 pocket watches

    Also, the non working watch is engraved Humbert's Watch Co. on the movement. Just realized you couldn't see that on the pictures.

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    Re: New member needs help identifying 2 pocket watches

    Quote Originally Posted by Biscuits View Post
    Horologist007, it appears to be a cylinder escapement upon closer inspection. jedanzoom, no other markings on dial or movement. Thanks for taking the time to reply to my thread everyone!
    Hi
    Yes I said that "I could guess it was not verge but a cylinder escapement"
    And if NOT Fusee 1860-1900

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    Re: New member needs help identifying 2 pocket watches

    Quote Originally Posted by Biscuits View Post
    Also, the non working watch is engraved Humbert's Watch Co. on the movement. Just realized you couldn't see that on the pictures.
    Found LOTS of 'HUMBERT'
    any initial??
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    Re: New member needs help identifying 2 pocket watches

    Nothing else, but the MURATUM S.W. with 48678 above, that you can see in the pictures.
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    Re: New member needs help identifying 2 pocket watches

    This is on the inside of the case.

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    Also, with my magnifier I can see a few sets of numbers have been scratched around the rim with McJ after them, in cursive.
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