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    NOS Jacques Monnat chronographs - Where did they all come from?

    I came across this watch in a sale post and really liked the look of it.





    Tried to do some searching online and couldn't find any real background info on the watch, but what I did find were lots of sale listings for other "NOS" examples:

    https://www.watchrecon.com/?query=ja...at&last_days=0

    https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_fro...p2045573.m1684

    Even Hodinkee was selling one: https://shop.hodinkee.com/products/l...nt=19801002180

    This has made me kind of suspicious. They only seem to have appeared since 2014/2015.
    Was a box of them unearthed somewhere and they're spreading around the world?
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    Re: NOS Jacques Monnat chronographs - Where did they all come from?

    Palmer Sales, NYC.
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    I've also noticed this massive influx of NOS examples. It's definitely suspicious. Something similar happened with Squale watches, where a batch of NOS bakelite bezels were "discovered", but in that case the company issued a special limited addition of new watches with the old bezels. With the Jacques Monnet watches, people are claiming left and right that the watches are actually 40+ years old, but completely shiny and new. The whole thing is extremely hard to believe, especially since there are basically no known examples that are old and worn, they are all NOS.
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    Re: NOS Jacques Monnat chronographs - Where did they all come from?

    A Valjoux 7736 has considerable value, and the movement I looked at in one of these watches - is not late production. I would say the one I saw on eBay has never been serviced and is indeed new - there is no sign of degradation etc.

    The movement is worth a lot - I would be surprised if this was a marriage watch, as you can't find a quantity of 7736 movements hanging about.

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    Re: NOS Jacques Monnat chronographs - Where did they all come from?

    info here on Palmer corp

    About PALMER SALES CORP

    PALMER SALES CORP in New York is a company that specializes in Jewelry, Watches, Precious Stones, And Precious Metals. Our records show it was established in New York.
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    64 W 48TH ST STE 607 New York, New York, 10036

    PALMER SALES CORP - New York, New York

    ..and here.

    On Tuesday, January 23, 1968, a U.S. federal trademark registration was filed for JACQUES MONNAT by PALMER SALES CORPORATION, NEW YORK 10017. The USPTO has given the JACQUES MONNAT trademark serial number of 72289419. The current federal status of this trademark filing is EXPIRED. The correspondent listed for JACQUES MONNAT is ?

    JACQUES MONNAT Trademark of PALMER SALES CORPORATION. Serial Number: 72289419 :: Trademarkia Trademarks

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    I'd like to believe that they're totally legit, because they are kind of appealing to me. They are selling in the $1,200 range, so there are people out there who think they're worth something.
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    Re: NOS Jacques Monnat chronographs - Where did they all come from?

    Quote Originally Posted by trim View Post
    A Valjoux 7736 has considerable value, and the movement I looked at in one of these watches - is not late production. I would say the one I saw on eBay has never been serviced and is indeed new - there is no sign of degradation etc.

    The movement is worth a lot - I would be surprised if this was a marriage watch, as you can't find a quantity of 7736 movements hanging about.
    This movement isn't a valjoux 23,22, 92 or 72. It is a cam operated movement with a very poor/average finish and which is far cry from the lemania 1873 regarding quality and durability. I have read somewhere that there were some rare Monnat valjoux 72 powered chronos. Good luck finding one
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    Re: NOS Jacques Monnat chronographs - Where did they all come from?

    Maybe a russian 3133 ?
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    I'd like these a little more at a down to earth price.
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    Re: NOS Jacques Monnat chronographs - Where did they all come from?

    Quote Originally Posted by georges zaslavsky View Post
    This movement isn't a valjoux 23,22, 92 or 72. It is a cam operated movement with a very poor/average finish and which is far cry from the lemania 1873 regarding quality and durability. I have read somewhere that there were some rare Monnat valjoux 72 powered chronos. Good luck finding one
    Doesn't change the reality that these Valjoux 7736 movements are getting very expensive and hard to find.
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