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    An old Pierce watch - information sought.

    Hi All,

    I am wondering if anyone can tell me anything interesting about the following cushion case Pierce watch. From Dr. Ranfft's site it seems to be a Pierce 103/Eclipse 10.5, and it is certainly beautifully finished. Unfortunately that information is not useful for dating the watch as the movement spans many years. I have looked around the internet and not seen anything much on these early Pierce watches.





    The dial is pretty good, and I am tempted to enjoy the worn case as it is.

    Would this watch have been worn on a leather bund style strap?

    Thanks for anything you can tell me.

    Kris.

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    Re: An old Pierce watch - information sought.

    Quote Originally Posted by trim View Post
    Hi All,

    I am wondering if anyone can tell me anything interesting about the following cushion case Pierce watch. From Dr. Ranfft's site it seems to be a Pierce 103/Eclipse 10.5, and it is certainly beautifully finished. Unfortunately that information is not useful for dating the watch as the movement spans many years. I have looked around the internet and not seen anything much on these early Pierce watches.

    The dial is pretty good, and I am tempted to enjoy the worn case as it is.

    Would this watch have been worn on a leather bund style strap?

    Thanks for anything you can tell me.

    Kris.
    Bund style is a German WWII military trend that had its first rebirth in the 60s. As a reckless youth, I bought many a strap in Tijuana with leather that discolored my arm.

    Killed my desire for the recent trend's interest in them.

    I've ha a couple vintage Pierces, but in the past, never had much success dating or identifying them. I very much enjoyed them while I had them (more than a few years). The vintages were nice Swiss watches but popular in the U.S. (and we never wore Bund straps back in those days....).
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    Quote Originally Posted by trim View Post
    Hi All,

    I am wondering if anyone can tell me anything interesting about the following cushion case Pierce watch. From Dr. Ranfft's site it seems to be a Pierce 103/Eclipse 10.5, and it is certainly beautifully finished. Unfortunately that information is not useful for dating the watch as the movement spans many years. I have looked around the internet and not seen anything much on these early Pierce watches.





    The dial is pretty good, and I am tempted to enjoy the worn case as it is.

    Would this watch have been worn on a leather bund style strap?

    Thanks for anything you can tell me.

    Kris.

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    Re: An old Pierce watch - information sought.

    I like the watch.

    There's a bit about the brand in this thread

    https://forums.watchuseek.com/f11/pie...on-405845.html

    about Erik_H 's watch.
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    Re: An old Pierce watch - information sought.

    Nice watch. The cushion shape was popular between about WWI and approx. 1930. I would think that the fixed lugs would put it firmly at the early end of that range, as all my mid-1920s (OK...both my mid-1920s) watches use springbars.

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    Re: An old Pierce watch - information sought.

    Quote Originally Posted by Paleotime View Post
    Nice watch. The cushion shape was popular between about WWI and approx. 1930. I would think that the fixed lugs would put it firmly at the early end of that range, as all my mid-1920s (OK...both my mid-1920s) watches use springbars.
    Blast from the past.

    Heh, I never saw that post Paleotime - sorry. Thanks for the info, I agree it would most likely be early 20s - partly because the finishing is better than the later ones I have since seen, and because this one is not marked as Pierce cal. 103 - hence was probably still an eclipse calibre from before Pierce took over.

    Anyway, after almost 9 long months, it finally got to the front of the queue (actually the real truth is that I needed to tidy my bench and it seemed easier just to repair it than pack it away ). One of the first vintages I bought, needed a new staff and entry pallet jewel adjusted and shellac'd in the lever. Nothing much to say, except it didn't cost much - and it is now working again.

    I guess in the scheme of things it is a watch equivalent of a Rat Rod.












    Embarrassing photo is embarrassing. Yes - I had forgotten something important. It took me far too long to realise this was why it wouldn't wind properly . In the meantime I replaced the winding pinion and crown wheel...



    Terrible temporary strap - but I wanted to wear it around for the day to make sure it was running OK (which it is).

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    Fantastic job Kris. I take it the click spring got overlooked for a while? I have a couple of dead, rough, Pierce examples. Yours is nice - and, IMHO opinion, the strap suits it fine.

    Another vintage back from the grave.

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    Thanks - although I didn't do much with the cosmetics, cleaned a little and otherwise left alone.

    No, not the click spring. I didn't even see I forgot a bridge screw until I looked at the photo above. The missing screw permitted the bridge to flex and the winding pinion teeth to skip over the crown wheel teeth. I was being a total nub.

    You know, there seems to be a lack of Marrick watchmaking threads around....
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    Re: An old Pierce watch - information sought.

    I'm not doing any at the moment. In any case, my watchmaking 'skills' are very rudimentary. In fact my last 2 servicing attempts failed. And as my wife and I are in the process of buying a property for renovation, that we can't really afford, I daren't even look on ebay.

    Maybe after Christmas.
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    Re: An old Pierce watch - information sought.

    Quote Originally Posted by Marrick View Post
    Maybe after Christmas.
    Ebay tells me that's only 6 days away

    Sorry to hear the last few were problematic. I have some that are put away until I know more - and some of the very early ones I tried won't be back. Ever

    Anyway, best of luck with the house I am still rennovating the project house we bought 13 years ago By 'still' I mean I haven't done anything for ages...

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