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    Old pocket watch - i seek information

    Iím not really an enthusiast, but Iíve inherited an old pocket watch from my great grandfather, and I would love to get some information about it.

    Iíve tried to open it to see the different ďstampsĒ, and from that (and a whole lot of searching the web), Iíve found out, that
    1. it dates between 1886 and 1933
    2. the case is silver
    3. the rest is another metal
    4. Itís probably swiss-made
    I hope one of you has some knowledge, that could give me some more details (or maybe correct me, if some of my findings are wrong).

    I've taken som Photos: http://kwdemant.dk/watch/

    Outside:
    Picture 1: The Watch from the front

    Picture 2: The Watch from the back

    Inside the case
    Picture 3: The German hallmark for silver after 1886

    Picture 4: The swizz Grouse and 0,800 - tells me it's silver, swizz made and in the period from 1880 to 1933
    I don't know if the small mark under "0,800" Means anything

    Picture 5: Something handwritten:
    473554
    166151
    401747
    AE

    Picture 6: the big number 5943 and under that a smaller number 7

    Under that on the right there's more handwritten:
    18326
    Ѧ ∂
    19422 = =
    20828= x
    21607 = x
    22284 = x

    and also under the number 7 is handwritten:
    2517 Ѧ 291

    Picture 7: The words "Cylinder 10 steine"

    Inside the clock
    Picture 8: The clockwork

    Picture 9: zoomed in on SR and FA -witch tells me it's swizz made and probably exported

    I hope one of you can help me. Thank you so much :)

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    Re: Old pocket watch - i seek information

    Welcome to Watchuseek. From what I can see, the watch is from the 1920s or early 1930s - I have almost the same dial and case on a Zenith PW from 1929. The movement, however, is still a cylindre escapement calibre which at that time was already somewhat backward technology. The heyday of the cylindre escapement was the 19th century, although they were still made until a little after WWII. At ten jewels, this is the highest cylindre grade (it is practically fully jewelled for a cylindre movement) but it remains a slightly mundane watch. If it still works, it can keep decent time and will serve you well, but if something is broken, these things are difficult to get going again and it simply isn't economical.

    Hope that helps,

    Hartmut Richter

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    Re: Old pocket watch - i seek information

    Quote Originally Posted by Hartmut Richter View Post
    Welcome to Watchuseek. From what I can see, the watch is from the 1920s or early 1930s - I have almost the same dial and case on a Zenith PW from 1929. The movement, however, is still a cylindre escapement calibre which at that time was already somewhat backward technology. The heyday of the cylindre escapement was the 19th century, although they were still made until a little after WWII. At ten jewels, this is the highest cylindre grade (it is practically fully jewelled for a cylindre movement) but it remains a slightly mundane watch. If it still works, it can keep decent time and will serve you well, but if something is broken, these things are difficult to get going again and it simply isn't economical.

    Hope that helps,

    Hartmut Richter
    Thank you so much for your help and info. That helps me a lot :)

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    Re: Old pocket watch - i seek information

    Hi and welcome
    May I add.
    Nice piece, probably 20s.
    Lovely enamel dial with both 12 hour and (red) 24 hour marking.
    Movement Swiss
    Silver case with German import hallmarks

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    Re: Old pocket watch - i seek information

    movement made by Phenix Watch Co of Porrentruy Swiss

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    regards enrico
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