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    One of my better finds in recent months... a bit of info would be nice!

    Guys and Gals...


    This arrived a couple of weeks ago in a state... Case was very dirty, as was the cheap expanding bracelet. The Crystal was beyond saving... crazed all over... to the point where I was not a 100% sure of the dial condition..

    I took it to my local watch guy for a replacement crystal... picked it up today!







    The Movement is in top condition...





    The 1414UD movement:

    bidfun-db Archive: Watch Movements: Eterna 1411UD

    From looking at Rolands info... I guess the watch dates to the early 60s? Both the movement and case back has a serial number... can these be used to date the watch?

    Also Roland, says the movement comes in 17 and 21 jewel... is there any way of knowing which this is?

    One surprise the watch gave me was the case... it had been described as gold coloured... so was not expecting much! Its not solid gold... but it has by far the thickest coating I have seen... stamped between the lugs... Gold Filled 80 microns.... The most I have seen was on a Omega.. at 40 microns. As such, there is not wear to the lugs/case... Is this a sign of Quality?

    Any info on the date/serial numbers/movement/case... would be helpful... general comments are always welcome to..

    Thanks for looking!
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    Re: One of my better finds in recent months... a bit of info would be nice!

    Nice indeed I do like Eterna. I think I have 5 or so now.

    Yes, 80 microns is very good quality, but then Eterna was.

    For some reason I thought the jewels were marked on the movement, but now I go back and look - I can't see it on my photos! Look in your reversers, if jeweled thats 4 jewels, so 21.

    *Edit, my Centenarie '61 is marked 21 on the movement. Perhaps 17s just aren't marked. But easy to tell as said above.
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    Re: One of my better finds in recent months... a bit of info would be nice!

    Sorry trim... Reversers?

    The fact I can only see 2 jewels on the movement... I'm guessing 17!

    Even though the watch cost very little (I think for the quality)... I have gone against my rules of buying and selling... As I have spent a bit more on doing the watch up than I would usually would... That said... I'm really happy with the results... and I dont normally like gold watches!
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    Re: One of my better finds in recent months... a bit of info would be nice!

    Hi Kris,
    Quote Originally Posted by trim View Post
    my Centenarie '61 is marked 21 on the movement. Perhaps 17s just aren't marked.
    Yes, the 21 jewels version is marked accordingly, the 17 jewels not.
    The four extra jewels sit in the pawl wheels. Moreober the 21 jewels
    variant has mostly (or always) a micrometer regulator like here:



    Regards, Roland Ranfft

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    Re: One of my better finds in recent months... a bit of info would be nice!

    Quote Originally Posted by Roland Ranfft View Post
    Hi Kris,

    Yes, the 21 jewels version is marked accordingly, the 17 jewels not.
    The four extra jewels sit in the pawl wheels. Moreober the 21 jewels
    variant has mostly (or always) a micrometer regulator like here:

    Regards, Roland Ranfft
    Thanks for the clarification!

    Anyone what the serial numbers are for?
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    Re: One of my better finds in recent months... a bit of info would be nice!

    looking great...

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    Re: One of my better finds in recent months... a bit of info would be nice!

    Great looking and excellent quality watch. Well worth spending a couple of bucks on.

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    Re: One of my better finds in recent months... a bit of info would be nice!

    If you feel like seeing the insides of your movement, this one of mine is the same, just with a larger dial plate.

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    Re: One of my better finds in recent months... a bit of info would be nice!

    Quote Originally Posted by Sparcster View Post
    Anyone what the serial numbers are for?
    AFAIK the serial numbers for Eterna are not available on-line. BUT if you contact them ETERNA - Nothing but Watchmaking then they will look them up for you and give you a date.

    Really nice watch.
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    Re: One of my better finds in recent months... a bit of info would be nice!

    Quote Originally Posted by trim View Post
    If you feel like seeing the insides of your movement, this one of mine is the same, just with a larger dial plate.
    That was a great read Kris... Thanks for the Link....

    How have you learned how to do that? Self taught? Years of training? I have a bunch of cheap watches I have purchased over the years... most of them I bought with the thought in mind, I could fix these... or use them to practice! The most technical thing I do is remove stems, so as to remove the movement to clean the case/replace crystals...

    On a side note... just won a dirt cheap 'deco' Roamer... was not looking for it, but it was only £5... Its a non runner and the case is suspect... but it was only £5!!! will have to see what turns up.....
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