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    Opera Chronometer

    HI all, I know it's been a while, but here is a new buy,
    Opera Grand luxe Time master Chronometer 21 jewel 5 adjustments, about 37mm across 44mm high.
    When I get it home I will have it serviced and depending on how bad the crystal is buffed or replaced, the dial is clean and perfect with star burst pattern. Should have it next week I'll post picks when I get it and after servicing.




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    Re: Opera Chronometer

    Great looking watch!

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    Re: Opera Chronometer

    This is a little puzzling. Lorenz gives the movement as an FHF Cal. 67, backing up that claim with a pretty convincing picture of the hallmark on the dial side:

    Das Metatechnische Kabinett - FHF 67

    The trouble is that Ranfft has a quite different looking FHF Cal. 67 in his collection:

    bidfun-db FHF_67: FHF 67

    ...which differs in more than just the geartrain bridge layout (which is commonly altered) - the balance cock has a different shape. The keyless works of the two movements are, however, similar (compare Ranfft's FHF Cal. 67-4). Maybe the good Dr. Ranfft will comment if he passes by.....

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    Re: Opera Chronometer

    Does anyone know the history of this watch company ? or perhaps steer me in the right direction. Thanks for any help.

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    Re: Opera Chronometer

    Well its not listed in any of the usual places:

    https://forums.watchuseek.com/f295/tr...ps-364475.html

    I suspect it's likely to have been a short-lived brand that hasn't left much trace. Sorry to be of no help.
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    Re: Opera Chronometer

    I found a few other examples of the Opera watch company watches, seems they made watches from the 50's and continued well into the 70's, High end brand. Here are the other examples ...

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    Re: Opera Chronometer

    After searching long and deep into this watch company I have a clue as to it's creators, it would seem that Opera is Bulgari SpA but goes back further than Bulgari by a long ways.
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    Re: Opera Chronometer

    I'm finding links to Longines, they trademarked 'Opera' and "Opera Watch'.

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    Re: Opera Chronometer

    Hi, interesting to see these comments and I thought I'd update this thread. I believe that Opera was the house brand name for watches produced by Opera Diamond Jewellers in Montreal from 1952 to the 1970's. They specialised in high end watches generally using quality swiss movements from a range of manufacturers. They also produced a low cost line branded Opeco.
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    Granddad's pride and joy

    Very glad I found this forum, the other members and a ton of useful information
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    So this was owned by my grandfather, and passed on to me.

    I did not know much about it until recently, but thanks to this forum in great part, the Internet at large and some older jewellers, I was able to piece the story.

    It (and the other watches from this thread) do indeed come from Opera Diamond, a store (later to become a small chain) in the north of Montréal.

    Although I do not know the date of purchase or manufacture, I know a few other things:

    • The "poinçon de maitre" indicates the watch case was made by Wyss & Cie in Bienne, Switzerland
    • Since it is self-winding, it cannot have been made before 1950
    • My grandfather passed away in 1963 and I think he had owned the watch for a while by then


    Since I have owned it:
    • I had the dial remade, as it was all pitted. I should have taken a picture, but I believe they screwed up the capitalization on the "O"
    • The original crown fell off, and some charlatan put a brass one on. The diameter was too large, making it rub against the case, and to add to this, it was too thin. Both conditions made the crown difficult to operate (it left marks on my fingers), and eventually led to the stem inside the watch snapping off...
    • I just had the crown replaced with a gold one, a new stem installed and a full service done at Gambard, a long-established jeweller (official Rolex dealer) here in Montréal. He charges VERY reasonable rates and does fine work. You can see the craftsmen at work when you go to the shop. As an aside, he has a collection of brand-new but vintage Seiko watches on display (they are for sale if you are interested) because he was the "original" Seiko dealer here.


    Also, apparently Opera Diamond is reborn, or so they say. The children of the founder have resuscitated the brand, and started a web site, even though it seems unclear what they are doing with it. I tried to contact them via email and telephone, to no avail.

    Thanks again for the help in piecing the story of my watch together. I may pipe in again, but not so frequently. I must admit, I am feeling the tug of collecting... That collection of vintage Seiko watches was really beckoning to me the other day .
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