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    Patek Philippe?

    I would appreciate any information about this watch. I found it in an old jewlery that is going to close an the question is, I found a good piece, or I really got a piece of fake (I don't know anything more about Patek more than they make really beautifull watches)...
    I really have no idea, I bought it because I was on a travel, the watch looked really nice, well working, etc, an was a minutes decision, so I bought it...
    Now the problem is, there is no information about the model, the shop is closed (I called twice with no answer), etc...
    So, if anyone has information, I would be very gratefull, I have sent one email to patek, but there's no answer.

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    Thank you all!

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    Re: Patek Philippe?

    All I can tell you is that it's an obvious fake. Patek Philippe never put their Calatrava cross on the dial so even looking at the front is obvious. When you look at the movement, there are light years between this cheap Chinese effort and a real Patek movement. On top of everything else, the hour markers don't make sense - the 12 looks like a 12 but the rest are a mixture of roman 2s in mostly the wrong place plus some dot indices. Patek would never come up with this design gaffe.

    Sorry I can't give you more positive information but the chances of an owner of a real Patek not knowing what he really has are diminuitive!

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    Re: Patek Philippe?

    I'm afraid this one won't remain as a lucky strike :( . The movement seen through the back gives it away as a fake. Real Patek movements are stunning, and this is some basic one.

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    Re: Patek Philippe?

    So I have inherited this piece and as I have no knowledge of watches I was hoping someone here could help me, the watch is stamped 750 but surely it wouldn't tarnish like this and the crown is/was plated points to FAKE but i need to be 100%







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    Re: Patek Philippe?

    Looks like a Seagull. Even uses the normal Seagull dial, just with the name replaced. https://forums.watchuseek.com/f67/sea...ph-225850.html
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    Re: Patek Philippe?

    Quote Originally Posted by AbslomRob View Post
    Looks like a Seagull. Even uses the normal Seagull dial, just with the name replaced. https://forums.watchuseek.com/f67/sea...ph-225850.html

    checked it out and found this, its a perfect match, thanks, appreciate it, glad I didn't pay for this but someone did and must have hurt.

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    Re: Patek Philippe?

    Hi there,

    Quote Originally Posted by Kerbalnumber12 View Post
    ...glad I didn't pay for this but someone did and must have hurt.
    Not necessarily. Some believe for the rest of their life that the did the ultimate bargain, and even pass it to their children, which rub their eyes when they want to turn the family treasure to hard currency.

    Regards, Roland Ranfft
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    Re: Patek Philippe?

    Well my intention was to have it valued so as to insure it, guess I won't be paying daft amounts of insurance now, it's a relief to be honest, and a shame at the same time. I'm just glad I came to this forum, i really appreciate the fact that I was able to seek the knowledge that led to the discovery it isn't genuine and put my mind to rest. Taking into account that I took it to three watch specialists locally, all of who believed it to be genuine but couldn't be 100% certain as they did not stock patek.

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    Re: Patek Philippe?

    Hi there,

    Quote Originally Posted by Kerbalnumber12 View Post
    Taking into account that I took it to three watch specialists locally, all of who believed it to be genuine but couldn't be 100% certain...
    That's the problem with these fakes and the benefit for the fakers: The only thing most people know about Patek Philippe is, that they are expensive. Even some jewelers don't know more, because they do nothing but sell things. But a watchmaker who doesn't recognize such fake, is a dilletant, even if he had never touched a Patek Philippe.

    Regards, Roland Ranfft
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    Re: Patek Philippe?

    Keep in mind, it's still a chronograph; they regularly sell for +$500 on the bay, so it's well worth removing the fake name, recasing and using. Seagull chronographs are reasonably decent.
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