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    Phenix Auto AS1361

    Normally, I'd wait till I got the crystal replace - but this needs to be seen alongside the Skiff. I bought them together, but the seller has no idea about their provenance. I wonder if Skiff could have been a short-lived Phenix brand?



    The Phenix has an AS 1361N - from about 1950.

    http://www.ranfft.de/cgi-bin/bidfun-...2uswk&AS_1361N

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    Re: Phenix Auto AS1361

    It certainly looks like the dial was made with the same press tool.
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    Re: Phenix Auto AS1361

    Certainly a very similar dial design

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    Re: Phenix Auto AS1361

    If you've never seen one of those movements in action before, move the rotor in each direction with your finger and watch the mechanism do it's thing. Brilliantly simple stuff, and it makes you wonder why the reverser-wheel was ever invented.
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    Re: Phenix Auto AS1361

    I've had a play -yes its a cute action.
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    Re: Phenix Auto AS1361

    Quote Originally Posted by Erik_H View Post
    It certainly looks like the dial was made with the same press tool.
    Thank you Erik and bjohnson. And the cas back on each is MLB modele deposee 16640. So cousins, if not brothers (or should it be sisters?)
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    Re: Phenix Auto AS1361

    Quote Originally Posted by Marrick View Post
    So cousins, if not brothers (or should it be sisters?)

    I can only speak for my watches, they are all female.
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    Re: Phenix Auto AS1361

    I have a Phenix winding model that has a cam set hack on the seconds hand, it almost looks like a chronograph set up, but no button- you just pull out the crown and then push it back in, it keeps good time but needs a clean- what is the story with "Penix" as a watch maker?

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    Re: Phenix Auto AS1361

    I see you found the chronostop thread.

    I found a really good history of the company, in French - but its disappeared and the link I posted previously gets me nowhere.

    I'll keep looking.

    The company name was:

    SOCIETE HORLOGERE DE PORRENTRUY PHENIX WATCH CO.

    And from http://www.antiquewatchworld.com/wat.../watch_co.html
    Phenix Watch Co.
    1873
    Porrentruy
    Dubail, Monnin, Frossard & Co.


    There seem to be a lot of NOS 1970s Phenix watches on sale from Israel at present.

    Best I can find is here:

    http://www.worldtempus.com/fr/encycl...phasitemap_pi1[char]=I&cHash=c1b813ecd2
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    Re: Phenix Auto AS1361

    You never stop being surprised by watches- they are the best hobby! I bought some 10 years ago a most unusual pocket watch with the only writing being "CHRONOMETRE" and the only thing stamped on the movement being a 5 pointed star with cresent beneath-
    I read your links and find that PHENIX used this symbol- how amazing is it that I have the 1955 Societe Horlogere Books and never clicked to the name and symbol- says Phenix were based in Porrentruy. (Suisse.)
    Looks like the old Chronometre watch is one of the "Crissont" breed maybe it is solid silver Hunter- made for a Middleastern/Turkish market.

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