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    Phenix Stop

    Well I had to have this to sit alongside my Phenix Chronostop.

    See https://forums.watchuseek.com/f11/phe...op-294775.html if interested.



    The movement is the Phenix 130(Stop) - see:

    bidfun-db Phenix_130_Stop: Phenix 130(Stop)

    The second hand flies back to zero when the crown is pulled out. Actually, it goes back to about 10 to the hour at present.





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    Re: Phenix Stop

    That is an interesting complication that is still employed by top brands today, but maybe in a more sophisticated way? I don't know, maybe someone can elaborate?
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    Re: Phenix Stop

    Quote Originally Posted by Erik_H View Post
    That is an interesting complication that is still employed by top brands today, but maybe in a more sophisticated way? I don't know, maybe someone can elaborate?
    I have not seen it on any mechanicals. It is rare on quartz being confined usually to HEQ offerings (like the Citizen Exceed E510).

    If you hack much, you gotta love this complication!
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    Re: Phenix Stop

    Quote Originally Posted by Eeeb View Post
    I have not seen it on any mechanicals.
    Well, maybe not vintage. It is commonly found in modern A. Lange & Söhne watches. And Panerai pinched the feature off them (both are part of the Richemont group).....

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    Re: Phenix Stop

    So a pretty rare feature then. I've been googling for a while trying to find a contemporary ad - but to no avail. Found this picture of the factory though:



    And this poignant picture dating to 1984.

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    Re: Phenix Stop

    Hmmm, that is interesting.....

    Now I have to look out for one, darn it Marrick. Plus the credit card is under close scrutiny which means I am going to have to be tricky if I find one...

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    Re: Phenix Stop

    Well you'll probably have time to save up trim - its seems to have been a low volume model. Its a bit on the small side as well at 29mm.
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    Re: Phenix Stop

    I've been wanting a Phenix for quite some time, and this has made the itch a little bit worse. Damn you, Marrick.
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    Re: Phenix Stop

    Sorry EG.
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    Last edited by Marrick; August 28th, 2010 at 13:26.
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    Re: Phenix Stop

    Hi there,

    interesting and highly collectible well, but an ill construction: When
    resetting the second, its driving wheel is forced to turn on its post.
    Just a question of time when it falls off.

    The more sophisticated approach was from ETA:
    bidfun-db ETA_1168: ETA 1168



    Here an axially operated clutch wheel under the direct-driven second wheel
    allows resetting without troubles.

    Regards, Roland Ranfft

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