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    Please help identify this watch I inherited

    My grandmother passed away Last year and I was given her pocket watch. I am told its all silver, and Swiss. It has been in the family for a very long time. Here are some pictures.







    Any help would be much appreciated.
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    A Swiss watch from the late 1800s. At some point in the past 150 years it has suffered water damage... probably not fatal in this example.

    At 17 jewels it was a high end movement (these are normally the ones that survive). The movement is a generic design of this era made in what amounted to a cottage industry of artisans and small businesses. As such there is often no 'maker' in the sense we use the term today. The best label for the maker would be 'Switzerland'

    I can't make out the hallmarks on the case but they would provide more information.

    The jewelry aspect of this watch is its value base. The 'necklace' (not sure what the correct term is) is amazing. It is much rarer than the watch.

    The watch can be restored to running condition with appropriate new hands. Don't run it until it is serviced by a watchmaker or YOU will be the first person in 150 years to ruin the piece! You have a position of trust with this family heirloom!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eeeb View Post
    A Swiss watch from the late 1800s. At some point in the past 150 years it has suffered water damage... probably not fatal in this example.

    At 17 jewels it was a high end movement (these are normally the ones that survive). The movement is a generic design of this era made in what amounted to a cottage industry of artisans and small businesses. As such there is often no 'maker' in the sense we use the term today. The best label for the maker would be 'Switzerland'

    I can't make out the hallmarks on the case but they would provide more information.

    The jewelry aspect of this watch is its value base. The 'necklace' (not sure what the correct term is) is amazing. It is much rarer than the watch.

    The watch can be restored to running condition with appropriate new hands. Don't run it until it is serviced by a watchmaker or YOU will be the first person in 150 years to ruin the piece! You have a position of trust with this family heirloom!
    Thank you for your help. I will post more pics from the markings. From what I was told, the chain part is called a chatelaine, usually worn by women. Hopefully you can see the markings in this pic. On the case it is stamped "Argent" and inside reads "Treise Joyaux", "Aiguilles" and "Echappement A Ancre"

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    The coin on the chatelaine says Willem III Koning. Not sure if any of this helps. Im so fascinated with its history.

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    The coin is dutch, Koning (King) willem III was a dutch king which ruled from around 1850-1890.
    What does the other side of the coin say?
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    I would not quite agree on the watch. The bridge style is more ca. 1830-1870 than late 1800s. I am not sure where the 17 jewels come from - the back cover states "Treize joyaux", making it thirteen jewels. The watch is of a high grade for its age since a lot looking like that are cylindre movements. How big is it? It does not really look like a ladies' watch from here, nor the attachments like a necklace for a lady with which to wear a watch round the neck.....

    Hartmut Richter

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    Quote Originally Posted by peterv View Post
    The coin is dutch, Koning (King) willem III was a dutch king which ruled from around 1850-1890.
    What does the other side of the coin say?
    The back of the coin just has the letter "J" on it. Very weird, but I assume it's more of a charm than a coin? Although it does resemble a coin definitely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hartmut Richter View Post
    I would not quite agree on the watch. The bridge style is more ca. 1830-1870 than late 1800s. I am not sure where the 17 jewels come from - the back cover states "Treize joyaux", making it thirteen jewels. The watch is of a high grade for its age since a lot looking like that are cylindre movements. How big is it? It does not really look like a ladies' watch from here, nor the attachments like a necklace for a lady with which to wear a watch round the neck.....

    Hartmut Richter



    Ok so here is a size comparison to a penny. It's a standard size watch to me. As for the letter, I found it in the box with the watch. Apparently she had sent it sent it to the museum of American history in New York, and what is in the letter is all they could come up with. I'm guessing since its an Swiss watch and not American.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisRKeate View Post
    The back of the coin just has the letter "J" on it. Very weird, but I assume it's more of a charm than a coin? Although it does resemble a coin definitely.
    Could it be a "W" like on this coin "http://www.metaaldetectortips.nl/img...tje-1825-1.png". Also "Bik" could be a dutch name.

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    I took a better pic of the coin. As for Bik,, yes its dutch. My grandfathers last name. He was from Holland, and my granfmother from Switzerland. Not sure who originally owned it though. I would think my grandfathers side since it has a Dutch type theme to it.

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