Please Help Me Identify A Vintage Wrist Watch and Pocket Watch!
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    Please Help Me Identify A Vintage Wrist Watch and Pocket Watch!

    I have a few watches from my Great Grandfather and I have no idea about who made any of these watches!
    Any information about who made them, when they were made, and if they are valuable would be greatly appreciated!
    The first watch states that it is from International but it does not say IWC or anything close to its older models.
    I was able to wind it and get it to work again making it a hand wind mechanical movement.

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    The second watch is a pocket watch from Sidney Rubeck with a different British coin on each side of the watch.
    I tried winding it up but it only keeps time for a few seconds before stopping again.

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    Thank you all again for the help!

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    Re: Please Help Me Identify A Vintage Wrist Watch and Pocket Watch!

    "International" as a brand was registered by both Bulova and Baume & Mercier according to Mikrolisk (plus a third registration for someone who only made large clocks). It is therefore important to see the movement and see what name may be on the movement. As for "Sidney Rubeck", I can't find any matches. A search on the net shows up a similar watch which supposedly has "Taylor Jewelry Co." on the movement:

    WatchNet: Trading Post => Push Button Flip-Top COIN WATCH Circa 1940's

    Taylor were located in New York and were probably an assembler at best (or this may have been made for them private label). Inside is probably a small ladies movement like the Adolf Schild Cal. AS 1977 or something similar.

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    Re: Please Help Me Identify A Vintage Wrist Watch and Pocket Watch!

    Thank you so much Hartmut Richter for the info on both pieces!
    It is a blast to do this research on some really old and historical time pieces!

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    Re: Please Help Me Identify A Vintage Wrist Watch and Pocket Watch!

    Doubtful that it is a Bulova, as the International line of watches are first seen around 1960 and the above watch looks to be 1940's.

    Sidney Rubeck has several patents, all for jewelry.
    Here is one that sure looks familiar!


    1955 patent.

    Patent USD175981 - Money clip or similar article - Google Patents




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    So, probably a US jewelry importer, with a flair for invention, as we see with the watches (found others in Google search) and money clips. Here is one I found on ebay sold listing.

    VINTAGE SWISS SIDNEY RUBECK INCABLOC POCKET WATCH NAPOLEON III NOT WORKING



    Cheers, Bob.
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    Re: Please Help Me Identify A Vintage Wrist Watch and Pocket Watch!

    Great info Bob!
    The above patent seems similar to the coin pocket watch but unfortunately my pocket watch did not come with a pocket clip.
    If the international watch was not partnered from Bulova and was not part of IWC then I have no idea what it might be from.
    Thank you all as always for the information!

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    Re: Please Help Me Identify A Vintage Wrist Watch and Pocket Watch!

    Quote Originally Posted by ConfusedOne View Post
    Great info Bob!
    The above patent seems similar to the coin pocket watch but unfortunately my pocket watch did not come with a pocket clip.
    If the international watch was not partnered from Bulova and was not part of IWC then I have no idea what it might be from.
    Thank you all as always for the information!



    Thanks for that, I just edited my above post to include another example of a Sidney Rubeck p/w, with a French coin.

    B.

    EDIT- notice the patent actually states "Money clip or similar article", so that could include a watch design too.
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    Re: Please Help Me Identify A Vintage Wrist Watch and Pocket Watch!

    A few months ago, I've seen an IWC in this forum, which on the dial had an "International" only. But as long as we can't see the movement, it's impossible to tell what it really is.
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