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    Please ID unknown vintage Repeater pocket watch movement

    Friends, please help me to ID this unknown to me repeater? pocket watch movement. The only visible marks are "DEPOSE 190" below dial. It is 48 mm in diameter. Thanks

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    Re: Please ID unknown vintage Repeater pocket watch movement

    I hope some one can help identify, sadly I can not
    I am intrigued with the dial markings seconds to 300
    This watch was also a chronograph wiyj '5' minute timer?
    Depose means patented
    190 I believe is the caliber number
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    Re: Please ID unknown vintage Repeater pocket watch movement

    It's a Quarter repeater with center seconds chronograph circa 1880 . It's of medium quality as it's not jeweled throughout the repeater nor the chrono mechanisms . The ebaushe is similiar to ones that LeCoultre sold . Quarter repeaters chime the hour and then the number of quarters past that hour . The higher quality pieces were " jeweled to the Hammers" . Yours when purchased was the dollar equivelent of a nice summer house while the other highest end models were like buying beach front property by todays price standards .It hope this helps .
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    Re: Please ID unknown vintage Repeater pocket watch movement

    I noticed that the dial is marked off in 1/5 of a second intervals. I know that horse racing uses that interval as their official timing.

    Could there be a connection?
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    Re: Please ID unknown vintage Repeater pocket watch movement

    Quote Originally Posted by gatorcpa View Post
    I noticed that the dial is marked off in 1/5 of a second intervals. I know that horse racing uses that interval as their official timing.

    Could there be a connection?
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    that makes sense
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    Re: Please ID unknown vintage Repeater pocket watch movement

    An 18,000 bph escapement ,which this watch has , cycles every 1/5 of a second . These were the new "high tech" escapements. The previous standard was 14,400 bph

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    Re: Please ID unknown vintage Repeater pocket watch movement

    Many thanks for the help - very useful information! Thanks!

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    Re: Please ID unknown vintage Repeater pocket watch movement

    It is a lephare movement, they used to manufacture these type of movements with complications
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    Re: Please ID unknown vintage Repeater pocket watch movement

    I would not necessarily agree with that. Although Le Phare specialised in these and the chances are good that it might be a le Phare calibre, the movement lacks the centrifugal regulator so often seen in Le Phare movements. Secondly, Le Phare often (although not exclusively) used a balance bridge rather than the balance cock seen here. On top of that, the movement is 48mm which is 21''' and I can't find it in this pretty extensive list of repeater movements (including many by Le Phare) here:

    http://www.faszination-uhrwerk.de/w/...tition-21.html

    ...so on the whole, I think that we would need a definite identification complete with calibre information to be certain.

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    Re: Please ID unknown vintage Repeater pocket watch movement

    Quote Originally Posted by jesse1 View Post
    An 18,000 bph escapement ,which this watch has , cycles every 1/5 of a second . These were the new "high tech" escapements. The previous standard was 14,400 bph
    I believe that the Jaeger-LeCoultre 'DUOPLAN' of 1925 was one (if not) the first? (wristwatch)
    Outstanding technology.
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