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    Question about some old Hamilton Serial numbers

    Hello,

    I have two vintage Hamiltons, both have a 987er grade but I am not sure about when they were made. The pages I have found so far weren't that clear. Maybe one of the specialists here can help out.

    The first one is a Hamilton Endicott
    Grad 987-F Serial: 436 642 9
    I am not sure, all I found differs between 1940-42 and well this DB:
    http://www.nawcc-ch149.com/db_resch/hamilton_506.html says even 1934 (but that can't be, as I know Hamilton built the Endicott since 1937, right?)

    The second watch:
    Grade 987A Serial: 0427092
    I've seen no list with Grade 987A, so I have no idea. From the style of the dial I would say something around 1945-48.

    Thanks for your time.

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    Re: Question about some old Hamilton Serial numbers

    I believe that the 987F serial 4,366,429 dates to around 1941.

    The 987A serial O427092 dates to around 1947. Most lists for the 987A are mislabeled as 987. Also, the serial numbers for the 987A start with an "O" not a zero.

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    Re: Question about some old Hamilton Serial numbers

    The first character in the 987A O427092 is letter "O" . The NAWCC database says these were made from 1937-1948. O486300 was the last made so interpolation would make it around 1947 I suppose.
    The NAWCC database is pretty good. I'd say it's quite possible that a movement made in 1934 was not put into a watch for a few years. Hamilton made over 450,000 of these so they may have had a few in inventory at any given time.
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    Re: Question about some old Hamilton Serial numbers

    O for zero, now you mentioned it, well that explains, how the nawac got into the 1920s

    1947, that's what I assumed. Thank's for the fast responses.

    The NAWCC database is pretty good. I'd say it's quite possible that a movement made in 1934 was not put into a watch for a few years. Hamilton made over 450,000 of these so they may have had a few in inventory at any given time.
    Was my second thought, but the dial has gold numerals, so I think it would be a little later, but I am not sure since when they made dials with gold numerals.
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    Re: Question about some old Hamilton Serial numbers

    Two points -

    1. Hamilton offered dials with gold numerals as extra cost options as far back as the late 1920's.



    This one is from 1927, and yes, the movement is a 987.



    2. AFAIK the earliest Hamilton watches offered exclusively with gold numeral dials were in the mid-1930's

    http://www.vintagewatch.info/Catalog%20-%201935.htm

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    Re: Question about some old Hamilton Serial numbers

    Quote Originally Posted by gatorcpa View Post
    Two points -

    1. Hamilton offered dials with gold numerals as extra cost options as far back as the late 1920's.
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    2. AFAIK the earliest Hamilton watches offered exclusively with gold numeral dials were in the mid-1930's
    Interesting information but I think that the poster has a 987F and a 987A, not a 987. Production of the 987 began in 1926 but the 987F and 987A are later (987F - 1928 & 987A - 1937). The 987A is similar in design but not really parts compatible with the earlier 987.

    Did I miss something about the relevance of gold numerals here?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimH View Post
    Interesting information but I think that the poster has a 987F and a 987A, not a 987. Production of the 987 began in 1926 but the 987F and 987A are later (987F - 1928 & 987A - 1937). The 987A is similar in design but not really parts compatible with the earlier 987.

    Did I miss something about the relevance of gold numerals here?
    The grade in question is the 987-F. Well gold numerals was only an assumption from me, that hamilton maybe had made this on later models of the Endicott (because so the earliest model I've seen in the net from 1938 had no gold numerals). But if Hamilton made watches with those since 35 then this had nothing to say.

    Besides here pic of the watch, that you can see what I was talking about:
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    Re: Question about some old Hamilton Serial numbers

    My source lists the 987-F as a 1933-34, and the 987/987A as a 1946.
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    Re: Question about some old Hamilton Serial numbers

    Quote Originally Posted by pacifichrono View Post
    My source lists the 987-F as a 1933-34, and the 987/987A as a 1946.
    Well there's almost consensus on the 987A at 1946-47.

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