Ralph Gout 1740 - 1828 - Watches, Pedometers and Posthumous Workmanship
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    Ralph Gout 1740 - 1828 - Watches, Pedometers and Posthumous Workmanship

    If you like a little intrigue with your historic horology reading, please have a look at my blog, The Old Watchword

    The account of the next watchmaker I'll be writing about involves an attempted murder, a one man crusade against the invading Swiss hordes and mention of some very swanky neighbours.
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    Re: Ralph Gout 1740 - 1828 - Watches, Pedometers and Posthumous Workmanship

    Quote Originally Posted by davidbuckden View Post
    If you like a little intrigue with your historic horology reading, please have a look at my blog, The Old Watchword

    The account of the next watchmaker I'll be writing about involves an attempted murder, a one man crusade against the invading Swiss hordes and mention of some very swanky neighbours.
    Interesting to me.
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    "I'll be writing about involves an attempted murder, a one man crusade against the invading Swiss hordes and mention of some very swanky neighbours."

    Better to post that otherwise, we just have serial numbers and no real history
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    Re: Ralph Gout 1740 - 1828 - Watches, Pedometers and Posthumous Workmanship

    Fascinating watches, I love the old documents you have discovered!
    The watch you own-#21915-is very beautiful, please post some photos here, we appreciate such.
    Good blog and I enjoy in depth information about little known (to me at least!) watchmakers, good research on this one.

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    Re: Ralph Gout 1740 - 1828 - Watches, Pedometers and Posthumous Workmanship

    Dear Bob -many thanks for you kind comments. Glad you like my subject. Only this morning I have made some new discoveries about the Gout II business. Yes, I will post some pics here. Regards. David
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    Re: Ralph Gout 1740 - 1828 - Watches, Pedometers and Posthumous Workmanship

    This is a verge made for the Turkish market and has nice silver/shell triple cases by William Linsley, whose premises were near Gout's in Bunhill Row. The Hallmarks appear to indicate either 1819 or 1830 - I'd be grateful if anyone here can verify which.
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    Re: Ralph Gout 1740 - 1828 - Watches, Pedometers and Posthumous Workmanship

    Hi David what a beautiful watch, thanks for posting the great pics!

    The case appears to have the crowned leopard's head stamp for London, that means prior to 1822.
    The "P" date stamp would make this 1790, or 1810.
    If you are sure the case is by Linsley, that would make this case 1810, as Linsley's mark was not registered until 1800.


    EDIT- I made the mistake of looking at the datemark upside-down sorry!
    That makes the case date 1819, sorry again.

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    Re: Ralph Gout 1740 - 1828 - Watches, Pedometers and Posthumous Workmanship

    So that all checks out, the case marks for Linsley is from 1818-1825, the datemark is the lower case "d" for 1819.

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    Re: Ralph Gout 1740 - 1828 - Watches, Pedometers and Posthumous Workmanship

    Thank you Bob. It's sometimes good to have a second pair of eyes on marks which are not totally clear - much appreciated.

    In confirming 1819 I'm further inclined to see this as an example of an apparently erroneous Gout movement number. As you can see, the case is stamped 23019. The movement number - 25019 - seems wrong considering the numbers of other extant Gouts of the same era, e.g. 24611 -1825.
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    Re: Ralph Gout 1740 - 1828 - Watches, Pedometers and Posthumous Workmanship

    Very possible explanation David.
    Also could it not be possible the case could have been an older one used by Gout, either saved by him from a old/cancelled order, or a stock case sent to him by Linsley?


    Another edit-again, looking closer at the dates and serial numbers, your explanation makes much more sense.
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