Is it real or fake? H. Moser & Cie

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    Is it real or fake? H. Moser & Cie

    Hi guys. I can buy some nice looking watch but I really not sure it is a real or just fake. I red some information on websites and here on WUS about this Manufacture but I still have some confusions. I can buy it for 700 USD. Imho it is good price if this is real H. MOSER & CIE. What would you say?

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    Re: Is it real or fake? H. Moser & Cie

    I don't know enough about the brand to comment really. But the movement is bidfun-db Archive: Watch Movements: ETA 1080 or from that series.

    Seems a lot of money to me for a fairly common movement.
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    Re: Is it real or fake? H. Moser & Cie

    assuming that the watch is from 40's-no shock protection-,the dial looks re-finished,case polished,who knows if its not put together after all that and signed Moser at home.and on the top of it,even if all original,I personally wouldn't pay even the half of the amount for it.

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    Re: Is it real or fake? H. Moser & Cie

    I'd say it's all fake. It should be "HY.MOSER & Co" on the movement and not "Hy MOSER & Co" and this model should also have the brand mark that's on the diel stamped just under the name on the movement. The text on the movement should be higher up and fill more of the space in between the screws and also centered.

    I also believe the writing on the diel isn't crisp enough.

    So the right components but the wrong brand so stay away.
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    Re: Is it real or fake? H. Moser & Cie

    I get some more info and it looks faky
    I found a second such "strange" watch in this week.

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    Re: Is it real or fake? H. Moser & Cie

    I found this forum there they show a real one and you can see how it should look like on the movement.
    HY MOSER swiss

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    Re: Is it real or fake? H. Moser & Cie

    The dial is really bad; note how the line at 9 doesn't line up with the applied marker, and the "Swiss" isn't evenly centered at the bottom. Even a crappy watch company can get that right on a factory dial. The movement looks far to sterile for the "signature", and the name looks etched, not engraved.
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    Re: Is it real or fake? H. Moser & Cie

    It's the little things that build up but you could lose a lot of money before you catch it and as a fake this watch is worth nothing what so ever.

    Now if only my genuine H.Mosel ladies watch was worth 700USD...
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    Re: Is it real or fake? H. Moser & Cie

    Within 2 seconds dial is definitely a terrible rework. The Logo is very poor.
    From that view I would walk.
    Movement Hy versus HY - not sure would need to research more - BUT its got be concerned!

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    Re: Is it real or fake? H. Moser & Cie

    I didn't think Moser & Cir were anything special, certainly didn't think they could command that sort of money. A quick ebay search on "moser cie" reveals several so-called 'luftwaffe' watches..hmmm. I would certainly not spend this sort of money on this watch. There are far better options for that sort of money.

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