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    Real or Fake Heuer Leonidas

    Hello,

    This is my first post while being an avid reader for a long time. I was looking to buy a vintage diver kinda dress watch and found this watch on chrono24:

    Heuer Leonidas voor 1.500Â.€ te koop van een Trusted Seller op Chrono24

    However i'm having doubt if its original, it just looks to clean to me. Googling it just shows an auction in september last year where it was probably bought by the current reseller. Can't seem to find another one out there. So is it a Francken watch, fake or real?

    Any advice?

    Thx,

    NSW2010

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    Re: Real or Fake Heuer Leonidas

    Hi there,

    just a question back: Why are you interested in a watch with cheap chromed case, offered without movement pic for $1500?

    Regards, Roland Ranfft

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    Re: Real or Fake Heuer Leonidas

    Welcome to the forum!

    That listing violates one of the cardinal rules in watch buying. It has no movement photo. Who knows what is inside that case? A mechanical caliber, a quartz replacement, a dead spider?

    Externally, it looks fine to me but as Dr Ranfft says, that's a really high price.
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    Re: Real or Fake Heuer Leonidas

    Thx for the feedback, i agree that the price is an issue but I can try to negotiate. I'll ask the seller if he has a movement pic and more info on provenance, papers, movement, watch model, year etc...

    Does any of you guys recognize the model?

    Last question what do you mean with cheap chromed case, I think it looks good or am I missing something?

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    Re: Real or Fake Heuer Leonidas

    Hi NSW,
    I think what Dr Ranfft was getting t was that if you`re thinking of spending that much on a watch you would expect a solid stainless steel and not a plated case.
    Solid stainless steel (and gold ! ) cases are usually an indicator of a better quality watch.
    For a dive watch you would expect steel as water-and especially salt water would attack any plating .
    Sorry I can`t shed any light on the model.
    If it where me spending the money I would buy two watches -
    one a nice vintage slimline dress and one a bona fide diver.
    I think dressy type divers are a relatively new kind of hybrid -but I stand to be corrected :0)
    Good luck.
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    Re: Real or Fake Heuer Leonidas

    To be honest, it looks like you're buying a name, not a watch. Nothing wrong with the name, that is, but the price seems very high.

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    Re: Real or Fake Heuer Leonidas

    The style of watchcase reminds me of the bevy of cheap pin-lever driven watches, and the "scuba diver" motif on the back was used by a lot of cheap wannabe diver models. Which is probably what this is. 5atm isn't a diver. It's "do the dishes without taking it off. Probably." At diving depth, it'll start leaking the moment you actually move your arm. For that matter, while I'm no "diving watch" expert, I find the use of a sub-second dial to be a bit odd; the #1 priority for a diving watch is being able to read it while underwater.

    I suspect this to be a redialed "lucerne"...
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    Re: Real or Fake Heuer Leonidas

    Hi there,

    Quote Originally Posted by demonfinder View Post
    If it where me spending the money I would buy two watches
    Two only?? Your'e seller's dream, I'd ask at least 15 of this sort

    Regards, Roland Ranfft

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    Quote Originally Posted by demonfinder View Post
    Hi NSW,
    I think what Dr Ranfft was getting t was that if you`re thinking of spending that much on a watch you would expect a solid stainless steel and not a plated case.
    Solid stainless steel (and gold ! ) cases are usually an indicator of a better quality watch.
    For a dive watch you would expect steel as water-and especially salt water would attack any plating .
    Sorry I can`t shed any light on the model.
    If it where me spending the money I would buy two watches -
    one a nice vintage slimline dress and one a bona fide diver.
    I think dressy type divers are a relatively new kind of hybrid -but I stand to be corrected :0)
    Good luck.
    Demonfinder
    I agree with all your observations there is something fishy going on, thing is i really like the dressy diver look eg the new vintage seamaster or planet ocean look with numerals on the dial and old lume maybe the Steinhart Ocean Vintage as a homage except i have a relatively small wrist so i think 42mm is just too big for a dressy diver. So if you have any advice on that point is also welcome.

    Thx for all your replies...
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