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    Resell value of marriage watches?

    I'm interested in a vintage circa ~1900 pocket watch movement converted into a wrist watch (marriage watch). I have found a few monopushers and rattrapantes that are absolutely beautiful movements placed in fairly high quality looking cases. What's the resell value of these watches like? I'm assuming it's mostly based on the movement. Anyone have experience buying and/or selling a converted pocket watch? Thank you.

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    We generally advise against such watches. They are big and clumsy with no shock protection and readily damaged.

    If you want one though, they tend to fetch a lot less when resold on ebay compared to the 'original' price achieved by the converter with nice pictures and hyped up historical details.
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    Re: Resell value of marriage watches?

    Okay thank you for the input.

    Quote Originally Posted by Marrick View Post
    We generally advise against such watches. They are big and clumsy with no shock protection and readily damaged.

    If you want one though, they tend to fetch a lot less when resold on ebay compared to the 'original' price achieved by the converter with nice pictures and hyped up historical details.

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    Hi there,

    if you tell the same lies about them like the people who originally cobbled them together, ebay will find the fool who believes them. So you'll likely get your money back. With reasonable better lies you even have the chance of some profit.

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    Re: Resell value of marriage watches?

    What kind of lies? Manufacturer of the movement? Original dial? That sort of thing? What if I were to send you a few links. Could you take a look and explain why you see what you see? Thanks! Here are a couple I'm interested in:

    LONGINES präzision Kaliber 19.71 JUMBO Superb ANTIKE mariage ARMBANDUHR 1917 | eBay

    RARE 46mm Steel Chronometer Longines Pre 1929 Pocket Watch MVT | eBay

    Quote Originally Posted by Roland Ranfft View Post
    Hi there,

    if you tell the same lies about them like the people who originally cobbled them together, ebay will find the fool who believes them. So you'll likely get your money back. With reasonable better lies you even have the chance of some profit.

    Regars, Roland Ranfft

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    I think Roland thinks more in terms of which famous Person wore the watch before, or that it was actually a military watch. Ideally both ...

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    Re: Resell value of marriage watches?

    Okay so I've really narrowed it down to this one: Longines COLUMN WHEEL CHRONOGRAPH "Marriage" Watch voor

    No claims that anyone famous wore it or that it's "ultra rare." Just a nice 48mm Longines Column Wheel Monopusher with very good condition original enamel dial. I am going to watchmaking school in 6 months so as I a side project I plan to clean up the movement and brush the case.

    Any red flags watchuseekers? Thank you.

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    I think Roland thinks more in terms of which famous Person wore the watch before, or that it was actually a military watch. Ideally both ...

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    Re: Resell value of marriage watches?

    Hey - we do watches for fun (well ... most of us). So if you feel right about buying (at that price) and wearing a mariage watch with a beautiful movement everything is okay.

    My position regarding this whole mariage thing is somewhat relaxed: the "genuine" watchcase is lost anyway, either because it was melted in or damaged or whatever reason. Were it not, the movement and dial would still reside within, no?

    So a mariage watch worn by someone who likes it is the next best thing happening to one of those poor creatures. If he's into watchmaking - even better!

    Good luck with watchmaking school!

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    I can agree with your angle. Other than the hideous fake carbon fiber strap, yes I do enjoy the look. I didn't ask the seller about the original case but the new case brings new life to this beautiful movement so I can enjoy it every day. I'm sure it will look better when I clean it up anyway! Thank you.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tomcat1960 View Post
    Hey - we do watches for fun (well ... most of us). So if you feel right about buying (at that price) and wearing a mariage watch with a beautiful movement everything is okay.

    My position regarding this whole mariage thing is somewhat relaxed: the "genuine" watchcase is lost anyway, either because it was melted in or damaged or whatever reason. Were it not, the movement and dial would still reside within, no?

    So a mariage watch worn by someone who likes it is the next best thing happening to one of those poor creatures. If he's into watchmaking - even better!

    Good luck with watchmaking school!

    Regards
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    Re: Resell value of marriage watches?

    Hi there,

    Quote Originally Posted by Tourbillioloco View Post
    Okay so I've really narrowed it down to this one....
    O.k., the three watches you linked to in your previous posts are honest offers (but any but bargains). The sellers clearly describe the facts and don't suggest original watches with historical background. But this is more the exception than the rule; most watches of this kind are offered with at least duboius descriptions, and if you want your investment back later, you'll have to offer them the same way.

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