Rust on the movement?
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    Rust on the movement?

    This is a West End Watch Co Sowar Prima, 1960s is what the seller indicated. It was running sporadically only and my watchmaker told me that rust on the movement made it not worth sinking any money into (I only paid £9 for it including shipping). As I like the dial and hands I'm wondering if I could swap out the movement? I haven't been able to find a signed West End movement to replace it with, but could i get an ETA movement to fit? I know this probably makes it a bit of a franken but looking for advice. Thanks!
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    Re: Rust on the movement?

    I only see rust on the winding gear wheels and they don't need to be perfect and the rust can be removed or the wheels replaced. There could of course be more problems down inside the movement but who knows without taking a look first. You can try a different watchmaker and see what that one says.
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    Re: Rust on the movement?

    That's an FHF Cal. of some sort (Cal. 67 series? Cal. 96 series?) or an FHF/ST derivative which is quite common. Is there anything under the balance? If you can identify it for definite, you have a decent chance of getting a replacement movement.

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    Re: Rust on the movement?

    Quote Originally Posted by Shum View Post
    I only see rust on the winding gear wheels and they don't need to be perfect and the rust can be removed or the wheels replaced. There could of course be more problems down inside the movement but who knows without taking a look first. You can try a different watchmaker and see what that one says.
    Definitely get a second opinion, I just went through this with my Elgin pocket watch. Watch guy told me there was rust AND corrosion and could not be fixed. Find another movement he told me. I found an other watch guy and it's fixed and running beautifully.

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    Re: Rust on the movement?

    It doesn't look too scarey to me from the photos...

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    Re: Rust on the movement?

    Well I personally agree with that watchmaker, watches like this are not worth it...
    BUT...
    Look here https://forums.watchuseek.com/f11/whe...d-1168162.html

    Most of us here belong to INSANITY SQUAD

    So, go to that watchmaker and FIX IT UP :D
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    Re: Rust on the movement?

    Quote Originally Posted by laikrodukas View Post
    Well I personally agree with that watchmaker, watches like this are not worth it...
    BUT...
    Look here https://forums.watchuseek.com/f11/whe...d-1168162.html

    Most of us here belong to INSANITY SQUAD

    So, go to that watchmaker and FIX IT UP :D
    Yes, I'm new to the watch world but my wife already thinks I'm insane! I bought the watch because I liked the look of it and therefore want to keep it and have it run well. Of course there will be a limit to cost but I'm starting without having had to put much out to begin with.
    - Mike

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    Re: Rust on the movement?

    As Shum said I only see rust on the winding wheel. You shouldn't have problems finding a donor movement on ebay as I've seen a lot of those west end around. I wouldn't worry about too much. If is clean nicely then I see no point of changing it.

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    Re: Rust on the movement?

    I would just be cautious without seeing dial side. Plenty of time water damage goes along the stem and destroys the keyless work leaving little sign of damage on the other visible side.
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    Re: Rust on the movement?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hartmut Richter View Post
    That's an FHF Cal. of some sort (Cal. 67 series? Cal. 96 series?) or an FHF/ST derivative which is quite common. Is there anything under the balance? If you can identify it for definite, you have a decent chance of getting a replacement movement.

    Hartmut Richter
    Thanks, it says 67 under the balance and also says swiss 21 jewel in tiny letters on the movement. Just looking carefully at it myself without really taking it apart i don't see any more rust or corrosion myself. Will have someone else look at it for a second opinion.
    - Mike

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