Seeking information regarding this pocket watch

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    Seeking information regarding this pocket watch

    My daughter has just been given an old watch by her Grandmother and we would love to know more about it. I have searched the forum and tried looking for information on the web but have not really got anywhere.

    All I seem to have is that the date mark looks like a Birmingham year mark for 1914. The .925 is obvious, but I can find nothing about the other marks.

    The runs and keeps to time, but only if laid flat with the face down, any other position and it stops!

    If anybody can tell me more about it, such as the maker, the material for face, and whether it is worth getting repaired so that it works at all angles, we would be really grateful.

    Pictures are below:
    The face:


    The back


    Inside the case:


    Marks inside the movement cover:


    Thanks
    Chris

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    Re: Seeking information regarding this pocket watch

    And other photo, this time of the movement. You can see the letters DF&C. there.



    Chris

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    Re: Seeking information regarding this pocket watch

    This was listed on an old thread on the NAWCC forum
    D.F.&C is the trade mark for Dimier, Georges, Sa
    (La Chaux de fonds, Geneve, St. Sulpice,London and Croyden

    The company registered its name in 1902 for watches, watch cases and parts.
    The company was still listed in 1973
    The posters name is Kurtnz.
    I would post a link but I'm not sure about linking to other watch forums.

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    Re: Seeking information regarding this pocket watch

    It looks to be a CYLINDER ESCAPEMENT movement. Very common Swiss movement from this period.

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    Re: Seeking information regarding this pocket watch

    The "u" symbol is the London import mark, indicating that the watch case was made elsewhere (switzerland, most likely) and was assayed by the London office upon being imported. The P is the london date code for 1910.
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    Re: Seeking information regarding this pocket watch

    Thanks - all excellent leads.

    Not that I don't believe you, but I have verified what you have said in case the process of verification turned other things up.

    Firstly the London import mark is shown here:
    British Silver Import Marks- Encyclopedia of Silver Marks, Hallmarks & Makers' Marks

    The importer DBs is shown here:
    London Makers Marks - D
    as Dimier Brotheres, Cannon Street, London.

    The year mark is here:
    English silver marks: marks and hallmarks of London sterling silver
    as London 1910.

    The year mark looks closer to the Birmingham 1914 font P, but I suppose the importer and import mark being in London makes the London mark to be most accurate.

    I could not independent confirmation of DF&C being Dimier too, but that looks likely too, given everything else.

    Any thoughts what the numbers 2, 8 and 3 relate to? Individual craftsmen?

    The number inside the dust cover look like a -3

    Also, what will the face be made from, and the numbers and markings. Are they enamel?

    And finally what it is worth? Searching suggests about £60, though I have only found bigger watches for valuation.

    Thanks again

    Chris

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    Re: Seeking information regarding this pocket watch

    The 283 is probably a serial number. You'll probably find a similar number engraved on the bezel; it was mostly to allow them to ensure that they kept the right pieces together.

    Valuations aren't given in these forums (and would be worthless without having the watch in hand).
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