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    Selection of old Movements Any ideas on age? Possible maker? Brandt Geneve?

    Hi,

    Please does anyone know a rough age of these movements?

    Movements Id Photos by clocked24 | Photobucket

    And possible ideas for makers?

    many thanks.

    All five function well.

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    Welcome to the Vintage forum. At a rough guess, I'd place those between ca. 1850 and 1880. All of them are key wound and set, all of them with "Le Locle" finger bridge style and in two of them, the bridges radiate so I'd place them earlier than the other two. All are levers, none cylindres so they are among the better movements for their age. One has "Slow-Fast" on the balance cock so it was probably made for the British market.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hartmut Richter View Post
    Welcome to the Vintage forum. At a rough guess, I'd place those between ca. 1850 and 1880. All of them are key wound and set, all of them with "Le Locle" finger bridge style and in two of them, the bridges radiate so I'd place them earlier than the other two. All are levers, none cylindres so they are among the better movements for their age. One has "Slow-Fast" on the balance cock so it was probably made for the British market.

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    Hello, thank you for your reply.

    Le Locle is a brand or maker? Or the actual style / design of bridge?

    A common problem to ID?

    many thanks

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    Re: Selection of old Movements Any ideas on age? Possible maker? Brandt Geneve?

    The last one has what appears to be a Parachute shock protection system.
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    Re: Selection of old Movements Any ideas on age? Possible maker? Brandt Geneve?

    Le Locle is a town in western Switzerland, most famous for being the home of Zenith (plus also of Tissot and Ulysse Nardin and some others, and the birth place of Universal before they moved to Geneve and changed name). That sort of movement is sometime (unofficially!) called a Le Locle finger bridge movement, even if made outside Le Locle. As for those movements, I wouldn't rule out the possibility that they were not made by one company but are rather the result of the Swiss cottage industry, but they are almost of too high a quality for that.....

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    Do you think any of the movements are nice enough to think about trying to find a case?

    Are they typicially movements you would find in Gold casing?

    Is this something an absolute novice could try?

    I expect not...

    Thanks.

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    Re: Selection of old Movements Any ideas on age? Possible maker? Brandt Geneve?

    Quote Originally Posted by 24clocked View Post
    Do you think any of the movements are nice enough to think about trying to find a case?

    Are they typicially movements you would find in Gold casing?

    Is this something an absolute novice could try?

    I expect not...

    Thanks.
    Please do you have any useful links where I can see movements alike.

    To try and piece together the mystery maker.

    Nothing from anyone of the more prestigeous makers?

    Many thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by 24clocked View Post
    Please do you have any useful links where I can see movements alike.

    To try and piece together the mystery maker.

    Nothing from anyone of the more prestigeous makers?

    Many thanks
    Would anyone like to see images of the reverse side?

    thanks

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    Casing watches is generally not so difficult, but finding empty cases (and dials) for watches from this era is no easy task, and then there's no guarantee that you'll get a correct fit. I would not be at all surprised if all five of these movements were removed from gold cases that were melted down for scrap.

    If you were seriously committed to getting these movements cased, you might start looking for similar non-working watches on eBay. There are no shortage of broken watches to be found, but don't expect a 100% success rate marrying those cases to your movements. That said, you'll get better at recognizing what you're looking for as you go.

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    Re: Selection of old Movements Any ideas on age? Possible maker? Brandt Geneve?

    Quote Originally Posted by chronophobia View Post
    Casing watches is generally not so difficult, but finding empty cases (and dials) for watches from this era is no easy task, and then there's no guarantee that you'll get a correct fit. I would not be at all surprised if all five of these movements were removed from gold cases that were melted down for scrap.

    If you were seriously committed to getting these movements cased, you might start looking for similar non-working watches on eBay. There are no shortage of broken watches to be found, but don't expect a 100% success rate marrying those cases to your movements. That said, you'll get better at recognizing what you're looking for as you go.
    Hands Photos by clocked24 | Photobucket

    Would you say these hands would be in keeping with the era?

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